Facebook users in Romania see content related to street protests reviewed

Re:Facebook users in Romania see content related to street p... by rdtsc on Monday November 27, 2017 @06:06PM (#15792548)

I don't want violence, and getting things done by voting is obviously much better, but for protests to work I think there has to be a threat of impending violence. A bit like how the nuclear deterrence works but on a smaller scale. I think the idea that the government should be afraid of its people is not a strange idea in his country. Now let's think when is the last time that happened?

I am thinking during the Vietnam War protests or Civil Right Movement. I have heard that one reason MLK's protests worked is because there was a credible threat from Malcom X and Nation of Islam, which encouraged gun ownership and self defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballot_or_the_Bullet

Yielding and accepting MLK's ideas was only possible as a compromise to preventing a more violent outcome from other groups.

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Re:Facebook users in Romania see content related to street p... by Moseman23 on Monday November 27, 2017 @06:38PM (#15792814)

I am sorry, but you are misunderstanding or deliberately distorting history. I admired a number of things about Malcom X and his movement, but he was always a marginal figure across the whole society. MLK "won" because he and his allies got the federal government, the establishment media and many liberal Republicans (the convention then) in Congress on his side. Bannon and his ilk want nothing more than for violent left wing people to act like it's 1968 in Paris. They will be branded as terrorists and the real destruction of our democratic institutions will follow. We need to attack this clown cult by voting and the courts when, as he is trying to do now, Trump goes after the census, voting rights, and the rule of law.

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Re:Facebook users in Romania see content related to street p... by rdtsc on Monday November 27, 2017 @07:05PM (#15793018)

> I am sorry, but you are misunderstanding

Quite possibly, I only remember stuff I read a while back and don't know the details.

> he was always a marginal figure across the whole society

I don't disagree that he wasn't marginal, he was. But he wasn't unknown. He advocated violence for self defense. Read "The Ballot or the Bullet" speech

http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/speeches/malcolm_x_bal...

He doesn't say that people should go and commit indiscriminate violence but there is warning that violence might happen if violence against blacks continues. He mentions someone throwing a Molotov cocktail and how unheard of it was for black people to do that. The implication is, this stuff will start spreading fast and quick if the current course continues. There is also an interesting parallel made how the US Army was defeated by guerrilla fighters in Asia, that was a very pertinent remark and appeals to what was on many people's minds at that time.

I think those who were in power certainly knew and were aware of Black Nationalism, Black Panthers, them buying and training to use firearms.

> MLK "won" because he and his allies got the federal government, the establishment media and many liberal Republicans (the convention then) in Congress on his side.

I posit that it happened because there was threat of something like Malcom X was saying happening. I am probably wrong as am only am amateur, you seem to know a bit more about it. So I'd like to hear more on this if you have time or patience.

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