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Re:American Equity by Retric on Monday November 27, 2017 @03:05PM (#15790702)
No, you can still make a loan by buying a bond etc.

I simply feel banks have conflicting goals as they need to be 'good at' customer service and making loans. This creates a lot of poor incentives and economic distortions.

Re:American Equity by kgwgk on Monday November 27, 2017 @03:14PM (#15790773)
Yes, it will be very convenient for people to issue bonds when they need a loan to buy a house or start a business...
Re:American Equity by Retric on Monday November 27, 2017 @03:31PM (#15790956)
Credit Cards are an example of non bank loans.

The difference is people fronting money for loans would need to take on real risks without FDIC protection or have safe deposits but need to pay for bank services.

Re:American Equity by kgwgk on Monday November 27, 2017 @04:13PM (#15791455)
You know that the large majority of credit card loans are given out by banks, right? https://www.nilsonreport.com/upload/TopIssuersofUSGPCC.3.jpg
Re:American Equity by Retric on Monday November 27, 2017 @04:32PM (#15791644)
Sure, but like GM's finance division making car loans; Credit Cards are a viable business even without access to depositors.

Often the capital for many bank issued credit cards does not come from depositors at all.

Re:American Equity by kgwgk on Monday November 27, 2017 @04:58PM (#15791902)
Ok, so we don’t let banks loan money. I guess they may still take deposits but if they are not going to pay any interest people will keep accounts as low as possible.

On the other hand, all the financing needs will be covered by other means. These “non-banks” will have to obtain capital as equity and debt, maybe even loans from other non-banks, but certainly not as deposits.

What was the problem that we where trying to fix anyway?

Re:American Equity by Retric on Monday November 27, 2017 @05:32PM (#15792245)
> What was the problem that we where trying to fix anyway?

Risk of financial collapse. Banks are risky because they have a lot of leverage, people more directly loaning money may take a 20% hit after a housing collapse, but that's not such a big deal.

Re:American Equity by kgwgk on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @02:57AM (#15795267)
The banks that collapsed during the last crisis are not the kind of banks that take deposits and give out loans. They were the kind of non-banking businesses that you talk about.

And one of the reasons for the crisis was “shadow banking”, because many home loans were not really given by banks (some were directly created by other institutions, some were first created by banks but then packaged and sold). The subprime crisis would not have happened, at least to the same extent, if loans had been kept in the balance sheets of banks.

Re:American Equity by Retric on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @09:35AM (#15797585)
Here is a short list of recent bank failures most of which are very much traditional banks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bank_failures_in_the_U...

Including the United States' largest savings and loan association, until its collapse in 2008: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bank_failures_in_the_U...

Re:American Equity by kgwgk on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @03:22PM (#15801088)
You are right, I was thinking of large (systemic) failures and actually I had completely forgotten about WaMu. Clearly forbidding the banking business (as in savings and loans) would prevent bank failures. But I´m not sure the alternative businesses that would fill the void would be much better.
Re:American Equity by Retric on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @07:16PM (#15803332)
> would be much better

I suspect, but can't prove companies that need to demonstrate comptitence in lending to gain access to capital would be better at making loans than companies who gain capital by doing other things and then suddenly have access to a lot of capital and need to find a use for it.

Consider tech companies like Apple/Google/Microsoft have access to vast amounts of Capital yet does not really effectively use it for much.