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Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by ghostcluster on Sunday November 26, 2017 @11:02PM (#15784724)
Except they occured during an active war and achieved a military goal: to prevent a mainland assault which would have killed an order of magnitude more people.
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by mb_72 on Monday November 27, 2017 @03:03AM (#15785609)
I can't find the link right now, but have read a fairly convincing argument that it was the conventional type of bombing, not nuclear, that caused the Japanese to surrender. Still a terrible thing for Japanese civilians though.
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by FabHK on Monday November 27, 2017 @05:00AM (#15786159)
I think it would be wrong to characterise that as the consensus, though. My understanding is that historians haven't come to a conclusive assessment, but that the majority view is that it did cut the war short and save lives (net).
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by manangatangy on Monday November 27, 2017 @06:19AM (#15786524)
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by mb_72 on Monday November 27, 2017 @09:17PM (#15793703)
Yes, thank you!
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by ghostcluster on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:48AM (#15787241)
The conventional bombing killed more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well.
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by vkou on Monday November 27, 2017 @03:25AM (#15785688)
The Soviet invasion of Manchuria was another straw.
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by throw2016 on Monday November 27, 2017 @09:08AM (#15787394)
Dropping a nuclear bomb on a civilian population is an act of barbarism. Dropping 2 is an act of insanity and is going down in history as one of the most reckless odious crimes against humanity.
Re:What Bikini Atoll Looks Like Today by Wohlf on Monday November 27, 2017 @09:16AM (#15787468)
Conventional and fire bombing were just as bad, they only took longer.