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Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by dingo_bat on Saturday November 25, 2017 @11:21PM (#15779407)
We'd finally have been free from the shit Google and Apple keep pulling. I'm afraid the mobile train is so long gone that it's impossible to get on board now. Even Microsoft, armed with a solid polished product could not make a dent.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by gregknicholson on Sunday November 26, 2017 @07:08AM (#15780560)
I don't think you necessarily need a large market share. You just need your alternative to be viable for individuals to choose to use. Then if it's better, you'll gain users.

Firefox itself needs large market share, as a bulkhead against sites that work only in {IE6|Chrome}.

Mobile OSes need large enough market share because you have to persuade the proprietors of important services to make their services available on the OS — if those services aren't available, your OS won't have enough utility for most users.

But it is possible to get a large number of services working on an unpopular mobile OS — if there's a common standard that unpopular platforms can make use of, which is good enough for most users — such as web apps.

(For example, DuckDuckGo can succeed or fail on merit, because it's a viable alternative. In the Linux bubble, most apps don't specifically target unpopular distros, but they can make use of the same source code or the same packaging formats.)

So if we want better mobile OSes, we should support interoperability of apps.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by imron on Sunday November 26, 2017 @01:35AM (#15779712)
> it's impossible to get on board now

To be fair people said the same thing thing to Apple when they decided to enter the phone market

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by nasredin on Sunday November 26, 2017 @02:14AM (#15779797)
The "smartphone" was still in its infancy back then.

Today the technology is mature enough, so it's more about the (small) gimmicks like fingerprint scanners.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by pletnes on Sunday November 26, 2017 @03:16AM (#15779971)
Fingerprint scanners changed the game again for me. Saves countless times of typing the pin code over and over.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by imron on Sunday November 26, 2017 @04:50AM (#15780190)
All the innovations the iPhone had were also called gimmicks by industry leaders at the time.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by m1sta_ on Sunday November 26, 2017 @03:24AM (#15779996)
Solid base product. Terrible browser and poor store management were are problem for too long.