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Re:How fast are those packets moving? by askvictor on Friday November 24, 2017 @05:02AM (#15770352)
Does the light signal in an fibre optic cable get noisy over distance? If so, then wouldn't an analog signal amp such as this simply amplify the noise along with the signal? Decoding and re-encoding would have the effect of 'cleaning' the signal in this case. If it does get noisy, where does the noise come from? The medium? Leakage from outside the cable?
Re:How fast are those packets moving? by amazon_not on Friday November 24, 2017 @11:13AM (#15771539)
> Does the light signal in an fibre optic cable get noisy over distance?

Yes.

> If so, then wouldn't an analog signal amp such as this simply amplify the noise along with the signal?

Yes. That's why there are limits on the reach of amplified networks.

> Decoding and re-encoding would have the effect of 'cleaning' the signal in this case.

Yes, but regenerating the signal introduces complexity, and thus reduces reliability, adds latency and only works for a specific encoding, which makes upgrades impossible. None of these things are wanted at the bottom of the sea for the next 25 years.

> If it does get noisy, where does the noise come from?

There are lots of noise sources. See: http://www.svphotonics.com/pub/pub029.pdf

> The medium?

Yes, partly.

> Leakage from outside the cable?

No. Although vibrations can cause noise.

Re:How fast are those packets moving? by rusk on Friday November 24, 2017 @05:05AM (#15770360)
I thought the point of fibre was that it was low noise ...

EDIT There's a good discussion of what you're talking about here [0]

Upon further reading, there's a such thing as an all optical regenerator which would appear to provide the best of both worlds, though there's nothing here about how widely these are used [1]

[0] http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/Optical-Repeater...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamyshev_2R_regenerator

Re:How fast are those packets moving? by askvictor on Friday November 24, 2017 @05:47AM (#15770454)
That's pretty fascinating, but I don't understand how this works from a purely thermodynamic POV. If the signal is being amplified, where is the extra energy coming from? Does it deplete the material? Is it like boosting voltage at the expense of current?
Re:How fast are those packets moving? by amazon_not on Friday November 24, 2017 @06:29AM (#15770552)
Longhaul subsea fiber optic cables have a conductor in them that carries a high voltage DC current that powers the amplifiers on the cable route.