News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by StavrosK on Thursday November 23, 2017 @06:20AM (#15764363)
Copy the most successful country in the world? Who would want a great firewall?
Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by libertyEQ on Thursday November 23, 2017 @12:26PM (#15766518)
Sorry to sound like a nationalist here (i'm not), but the US has 1/3rd the population of China yet still has the largest economy, and the goto reserve currency. China actually has an ownership stake in all of their IT companies.

Contrary to a sibling comment, NN paves the way for the government to regulate what a private company can do with their IT assets, and therefore a great firewall situation.

Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by wongarsu on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:10PM (#15767514)
>but the US has 1/3rd the population of China yet still has the largest economy

USA is first by Nominal GDP, but second by PPP GDP (or third if you count the EU). I wouldn't declare a definitive winner based on that. And it's better to leave population out of that, because per capita the US is far behind countries like Norway or Switzerland, and at only half the GDP of Luxembourg (both nominal and PPP).

Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by libertyEQ on Thursday November 23, 2017 @09:02PM (#15769014)
You people are unbelievable. Please tell me about the last tech startup from Switzerland or Luxembourg... I'm not trying to declare some definitive "winner" here, but if you don't recognize which country is clearly dominant in the world, I can't help you.
Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by DiThi on Thursday November 23, 2017 @06:28AM (#15764393)
Maybe that's the plan in the USA... Without NN it's easier than with NN.
Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by libertyEQ on Thursday November 23, 2017 @12:32PM (#15766562)
Are you sure your logic is sound here(?):

The great firewall and net neutrality are both examples of the government regulating the internet.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm sure we all agree that our ISPs should offer neutral transmission of packets without deference to source/destination or protocol/port.

Re:To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet by DiThi on Thursday November 23, 2017 @02:14PM (#15767200)
Both regulate the internet, but in complete opposite ways:

Net neutrality is the default state of computer networks (a packet is a packet), and protecting it forbids discrimination by source, destination or contents.

The great firewall discriminates by source, destination or contents.

One of the main arguments against net neutrality is disallowing offering different speed or latency depending on the type of service (VoIP, gaming, downloads), but that's false, because you can do that without looking at the source, destination or contents; you just have to compare them with other packets (as opposed to comparing them to a pre-made list).