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Re:How Evil Is Tech? by forgottenpass on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @01:53PM (#15759374)
maybe I live in a bit of a bubble as a techie

Your post takes the "new media" vs "old media" narrative at face value, and it looks like you identify with one of the teams.

I might be in this world too, but I came in before Facebook was created, and out of happenstance never wound up working at the current school of popular but criticized companies. For this fight, I don't have the kind of connection that sets my position before I know what the arguments are.

This editorial is just another point in the slow process of the rest of the world starting to notice the things that - just a few years ago - they used to brand people as paranoid conspiracy theorists for caring about.

I just don't see people (even among my very non-techie friends / acquaintances) saying "Wow, WTF is wrong with (Google|Facebook|Amazon|Microsoft|Instagram|Snapchat|Uber|$Whoever)?

Most people are ill-equipped to understand that they've been owned inside out. We've been watching it in slow motion for a decade, regular people don't understand what is happening. This article is an attempt by one editorial board to spread their assessment of what is happening to us.

Secondly, Like most things in the status quo that people are powerless to change, but are ill-informed about and/or don't have their political team teaching them to dislike it, their assessment is "I guess it couldn't be that bad."

Re:How Evil Is Tech? by mindcrime on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @09:02PM (#15762259)
Your post takes the "new media" vs "old media" narrative at face value, and it looks like you identify with one of the teams.

Not really. It's clear the the world is shades of grey without there always being a bright line distinction between things. But this is a random HN post, not an essay. I'm not always going to spend the time and the number of words it would take to dig into every subtlely that could be pointed out. Sometimes it's enough to deal with the surface aspect of something.

As for being on a team... hah, I don't trust any of those motherfuckers. The mainstream / old media is quite clearly corrupt as fuck, no question about that. And AmaGoogFaceSoftHooGramChat clearly have their own agenda which isn't about benefitting the common man.

I'm close to "trust no one" than anything. Or maybe it would be better to say I believe in "bounded trust" or "sketpical trust". That is, trust an entity to behave as it would within the bounds of it's (position|incentives|etc).