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Re:The Problem of Doctors’ Salaries by sanderjd on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @12:23PM (#15758543)
You keep giving me the sense (like with your "7% below COGS" statistic) that you do actually know why residencies aren't profitable, but you keep making an indirect economic argument instead of talking about that directly.

All anyone in this thread is trying to figure out is why folks getting paid poorly to do work that we know costs tons of money (because we see the bills) would incur net negative profit.

Re:The Problem of Doctors’ Salaries by chimeracoder on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @12:47PM (#15758756)
> All anyone in this thread is trying to figure out is why folks getting paid poorly to do work that we know costs tons of money (because we see the bills) would incur net negative profit.

Because hospitals have to pay:

- residents' salaries

- attendings' salaries

- health insurance

- residents' insurance (for practicing)

- licensing fees

- taxes

It turns out, that all comes out to a lot of money. And hiring additional residents doesn't really save them much money, or bring in much additional revenue. The costs are greater than the revenue or savings. So, it's not profitable.

> to do work that we know costs tons of money (because we see the bills)

That's a question of medical billing, which is a whole other separate topic. In short: hospitals don't receive anywhere near the sticker amount for those bills, and a massive chunk of reimbursements from privately-insured patients goes towards recouping the losses that Medicare and Medicaid patients incur (as explained elsewhere, hospitals lose money on a per-patient basis for publicly-insured patients).

Re:The Problem of Doctors’ Salaries by sanderjd on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @01:16PM (#15759051)
Thanks for the detailed response!

It seems to me that all of that (both the fully loaded costs of an employee, and the complexity of medical billing) applies equally to any other doctor, with a single exception. The exception is the portion of the attendings' costs that can be "charged" to each resident.

Is it that the additional cost in attendings' time, along with the reduced ability to earn larger sums for complex unsupervised procedures, outweighs the lower salary?