Re:Linus Torvalds: “Do No Harm”
by FussyZeus on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @08:56AM
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Normally I'm not a fan of Linus, but this:
> IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE when security people set magical new rules, and then make the kernel panic when those new rules are violated.
> That is pure and utter bullshit. We've had more than a quarter century _without_ those rules, you don't then suddenly walz in and say "oh, everbody must do this, and if you haven't, we will kill the kernel".
> The fact that you "introduced the fallback mode" late in that series just shows HOW INCREDIBLY BROKEN the series started out.
This makes perfect sense and outlines a real problem with security patching in general.
Re:Linus Torvalds: “Do No Harm”
by digi_owl on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @09:45AM
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Sadly this kind of magical security thinking have many proponents higher up in the Linux stack, and they have the backing/support of GKH. Thus i worry what will happen the day Linus give up the reins.
> IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE when security people set magical new rules, and then make the kernel panic when those new rules are violated.
> That is pure and utter bullshit. We've had more than a quarter century _without_ those rules, you don't then suddenly walz in and say "oh, everbody must do this, and if you haven't, we will kill the kernel".
> The fact that you "introduced the fallback mode" late in that series just shows HOW INCREDIBLY BROKEN the series started out.
This makes perfect sense and outlines a real problem with security patching in general.