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Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by infinity0 on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @05:32AM (#15755791)
Following suit, UK unveiled plans to have 625M surveillance cameras.
Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by kalleboo on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @07:17AM (#15756200)
I just tried to search for how many surveillance cameras there already are in the UK, and by the time I got to "number of surveillance cameras", Safari popped up a Siri suggestion for the London Wikipedia article... http://mayoyo.tokyo/jK7.jpg

If anyone is curious "The British Security Industry Association (BSIA) estimates there are between 4-5.9 million cameras"

Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by infinity0 on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @08:16AM (#15756503)
A quick google search suggests that China currently has about 20 million cameras, so the UK is actually not far behind.

Given the population, there are actually more cameras per UK citizen than there are per Chinese citizen.

Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by buro9 on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @11:27AM (#15758054)
And yet, when I was the victim of a hit and run incident in central London we were unable to locate a single working camera that could provide any usable evidence.

The vast majority either do not work, or are privately owned and when enquired about (difficult in itself as there are so many parties to contact once the owner is identified, and they likely do not have direct access and need to speak to someone else) have extremely useless retention periods that meant no footage survived enough time to request it.

Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by ashleysmithgpu on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @05:51AM (#15755867)
10 for each person in the UK? ... I wouldn't put it past this government
Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by gaius on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @08:58AM (#15756780)
It started during the Bliar years (not that that excuses this government from continuing with it). Remember the national biometric database?
Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by oliwarner on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @10:12AM (#15757303)
Err, no. It started in the 1960s. There were massive city-wide programmes up and running well before Blair.

The IRA (or their reactionary counterparts) are who you should blame for the amount of CCTV in London, but it all comes from the same place. If it wasn't them, it would have been something else.

Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by escapologybb on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @10:59AM (#15757758)
^This

My first memory of surveillance in any kind of large-scale was in the early 1990s, well before Tony Blair. It was when the Met police put up the "Ring of Steel" around the centre of London to stop the volunteers blowing things up.

Anyway, too much surveillance bad. Unless they use it to find your phone, in which case too much surveillance good. One might think it's somewhat of a nuanced issue!

Re:China to have 626M surveillance cameras within 3 years by agumonkey on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @07:33AM (#15756267)
Gonna start my surveillance free luxury city and enjoy my new rich-itude.