Re:John Lasseter taking a leave of absence amid reports of i...
by aaron-lebo on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @07:36PM
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That comment is from the post, which again, I'd suggest people read instead of a paraphrase.
This is the advice offered to him:
“Therefore,” he continued, “under no circumstances be a gentleman! You must disrespect the girls. Furthermore, the very first rule is, don’t buy a girl anything –– not even a package of cigarettes — until you’ve asked her if she’ll sleep with you, and you’re convinced that she will, and that she’s not lying.”
This is his conclusion to that advice:
The master was right. So the lesson was terrific!
You can take from it whatever you want.
Re:John Lasseter taking a leave of absence amid reports of i...
by jacobolus on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @07:45PM
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The master of ceremonies was right, as in: acting disagreeable, pushy, socially superior, insulting, etc., and then directly propositioning someone for sex before paying for anything was effective in practice (at least twice) at getting women at a bar to agree to a one-night stand.
Edit: I read “the post”. Either the author has poor reading comprehension and largely failed to understand the content of the story (maybe Feynman can be blamed for not having written it in a clearer way), or she is being disingenuous.
Re:John Lasseter taking a leave of absence amid reports of i...
by whatshisface on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @08:51PM
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I think the right phrase here might have passed out of our vocabulary during a long recent period of extreme permissiveness. It's ungentlemanlike to speak of such things.
(b) Feynman never said that not buying her something was “disrespectful” (though the MC did say that the man should (1) be disrespectful and also (2) not buy a woman anything up front). The “disrespectful” part was insulting someone or directly propositioning a stranger for sex in return for a drink.
You are reading a whole lot more into the story about Feynman’s “assumptions” and “considerations” than is supportable by the text. Overall I would say your comment is considerably more condescending and offensive than the story.
If you want to give Feynman crap about his other treatment of women throughout his life, so be it, but this story is pretty thin evidence for whatever case you’re trying to make.