Re:Google collects cell tower info even if location services...
by UncleMeat on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @03:49PM
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You should be assuming that all networks are pwned anyway. KRACK was exciting, but really isn't a major threat to people.
Re:Google collects cell tower info even if location services...
by ocdtrekkie on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @04:50PM
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This is true and false. It is good to assume your Wi-Fi networks are insecure, and I've done so for a long time. But the fact that WPA2 is not the lynchpin of your entire security plan doesn't mean that WPA2 being effectively nullified isn't a massive layer of security being ripped off.
WPA2 working correctly does not guarantee that you are secure, but WPA2 working correctly means it is much harder for someone to do something malicious. The fanboy crowd has leaned heavily on Google's push to get sites to use HTTPS everywhere as a reason to suggest KRACK isn't a big deal, but the reality is a massive amount of Internet traffic still isn't HTTPS, and more than likely, never will be.
Re:Google collects cell tower info even if location services...
by growse on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @02:13PM
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So you trust Apple more than Google. Great! Don't expect everyone to come to the same conclustion. Trust is not objective.
> I dislike the iPhone, but if you want privacy and security, you should get an iPhone.
If you want privacy and security, don't buy a smartphone.
- Worried about Google? Android is bad. Google collects your data.
- Worried about the government? Since Google must obey warrants for your data, Android is bad.
- Worried about malicious third parties? Since Google has failed to patch even the Pixel line for KRACK until the December update... yeah, Android is bad. And malware through the Play Store that hits large numbers of devices is quite common.
To be clear: I greatly dislike iPhones. But Apple controls their store with a quality approval methodology, they patch all of the devices on their platform promptly going back a number of years, their business model is not built around data mining, and their privacy features have frustrated and irritated the government.
I dislike the iPhone, but if you want privacy and security, you should get an iPhone.