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Re:Tether Critical Announcement by ActsJuvenile on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @02:26AM (#15746303)
Bitfinex got hacked for 119,756 BTC last year, and Tether got hacked for $30 mil today.

Both are owned by iFinex LTD, and had the same CEO till earlier this year. Total amount they have lost comes out to $1 Billion.

How are you still claiming "They may not be"?

Re:Tether Critical Announcement by bitreality on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @04:44AM (#15746825)
At the time Bitfinex was hacked, they automatically converted the "hacked" BTC balance to USD. It was around $650 I believe at the time of the hack. It would be unfair to measure the hack in today's BTC value because they converted the liability in customers' accounts in USD.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by joosters on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @05:55AM (#15747073)
Tell that to the Mt Gox account holders... they don't seem too happy that their BTC claims have been converted to JP¥
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by darawk on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @11:16AM (#15748873)
They were plenty happy with it when BTC was crashing. People just like to whine. Converting to JPY in MtGox's case and USD in Bitfinex's case was the reasonable thing to do. Denominating massive debts in cryptocurrency is an insane thing in a market this young and volatile.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by makomk on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @09:02AM (#15756804)
I don't think this was terribly good for them when bitcoin was crashing either, because it still ate into the amount they'd get paid out since the underlying assets were still partially in bitcoins. The bankruptcy trustee basically gave Mark Karpeles free options on bitcoin with all the customers he'd screwed over as forced counterparties.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by darawk on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @03:07AM (#15746460)
I was a Bitfinex customer when they got hacked. I lost 30% of my funds on that day. I couldn't be happier with how they handled it. They paid me back in full and did the best they could with the situation they had. People being upset with them over it is insane to me. As far as I can tell, it's mostly people who had nothing to do with it spectating from the sidelines. If an exchange you use ever gets hacked, I certainly hope they do exactly what Bitfinex did, for your sake. And you should too.
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Re:Tether Critical Announcement by simias on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @04:01AM (#15746692)
They said "They paid me back in full" so I assume he did not lose the 30% in the end? Admittedly I'm not sure I understand what they mean.

I also wish that "everybody I disagree with is a shill" meme stayed in 4chan and reddit, it's incompatible with reasonable discussion.

Re:Tether Critical Announcement by darawk on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @11:19AM (#15748903)
What I mean is that when the hack occurred I lost 30% of my funds. However, I received BFX tokens equivalent to the amount I lost. Eventually, as Bitfinex continued operating and accumulating fees from operations, they paid me back 1:1 USD for BFX tokens they had given me as debt.

So, I did lose the time-value of that money (they didn't pay me interest on it), and I didn't get paid back in Bitcoin or Ethereum, which would have been more money, but i'm still very happy with how they handled it. I think it was the most reasonable and honest solution to the problem that they had available to them at the time.

Re:Tether Critical Announcement by sctb on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @09:01AM (#15747864)
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Re:Tether Critical Announcement by mrb on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @03:09AM (#15746466)
Bitfinex already fully financially recovered from the 119k BTC theft by repurchasing the last of the BFX debt tokens a few months ago.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by iamthirsty on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @03:19AM (#15746523)
...with suspiciously issued Tethers, which is kinda the whole point here.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by mrb on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @04:08AM (#15746716)
But it doesn't matter. From a legal aspect, customers who accepted to sell their BFX tokens are no longer creditors to Bitfinex.
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by troc on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @04:01AM (#15746690)
and those tokens were traded at how many pennies to the dollar ?
Re:Tether Critical Announcement by darawk on Tuesday November 21, 2017 @07:13PM (#15752998)
They were redeemed by Bitfinex at full face value.