Nah, people drop money into CS education and the reasoning changes to "that's just businesses seeding cheap labor 20-30 years from now"
Because we led, doesn't mean we will lead. You get to be a leader by leading, not by resting on your laurels while someone else becomes a leader.
So, while I don't think I'll have an impact on corporateguy5's opinion, maybe some other reader will keep this in mind and somehow benefit from the awareness?
For the record my father grew up as a shoeless jungle peasant in Nicaragua. He immigrated to the US in his late 20's and at the age of 30 he nearly lost his hand in a factory accident in Brooklyn. So he took college courses at night and eventually became a top DB admin at various institutions in NYC. He had something to prove so he just worked harder than all his peers. He was a man of his word of high integrity so he was given ever increasing responsibility.
Maybe he'd do poorly in a quantum physics class. But one does not need to score well on an IQ test in order to have integrity and ambition or to be a valued citizen.
[1]https://qz.com/904933/a-history-of-american-anti-immigrant-b...
Can you clarify that? Because it sounds like some pretty racist bad science.
So, racist bad science then?
I could see that a lot of various net outcomes economically similar not due to biological factors, but rather a myriad of environmental ones. The Anna Karenina principle[1] means a lot if some societies get rice and Mediterranean Basins and World Banks, while others get tubers and mountains and slave-trading ships that buy people from you.
I feel like those factors would make a more significant difference, as a few thousand years isn't very long in evolution time, from what I understand.
I always love new spins on old racism. Do tell how 'climate' plays a role in potential for technical workforce ability.
Climate, along with dozens of other factors, produced variations in human traits. Some of them, like skin color, height, etc. are obvious to everyone. Others, including intelligence, are not so obvious.
But the idea that IQ is inheritable and variable between ethnicities is not too terribly controversial, even though it is politically taboo to mention.
Thus, you'd find that some groups are more likely to dominate fields than others (due to nature) and not 100% because of societal differences (i.e. nurture).
So the actual question for a society in a competitive global economy to ask is what proportion of limited resources are used to help those in the rear catch up vs what proportion is used to push the most gifted farther ahead.
For the record my father grew up as a shoeless jungle peasant in Nicaragua. At 35 he nearly lost his hand in a factory accident in Brooklyn. So he took college courses at night and eventually became a top DB admin at various institutions in NYC. He had something to prove so he just worked harder than all his peers. He was a man of his word of high integrity so he was given ever increasing responsibility.
Maybe he'd do poorly in a quantum physics class. But I'd prefer a citizens with integrity and ambition (this is within anyone's reach) over a one that scores well on a standardized test.
[1]https://qz.com/904933/a-history-of-american-anti-immigrant-b...
For the record my father grew up as a shoeless jungle peasant in Nicaragua. At 35 he nearly lost his hand in a factory accident in Brooklyn. So he took college courses at night and eventually became a top DB admin at various institutions in NYC. He had something to prove so he just worked harder than all his peers. He was a man of his word of high integrity so he was given ever increasing responsibility.
Maybe he'd do poorly in a quantum physics class. But one does not need to score well on an IQ test in order to have integrity and ambition or to be a valued citizen.
[1]https://qz.com/904933/a-history-of-american-anti-immigrant-b...
For the record my father grew up a shoeless jungle peasant in Nicaragua. At 35 he nearly lost his hand in a factory accident in Brooklyn. So he took college courses at night and eventually became a top DB admin at various institutions in NYC. He had something to prove so he just worked harder than all his peers. He was a man of his word of high integrity so he was given ever increasing responsibility.
Maybe he'd do poorly in a quantum physics class. But I'd prefer a citizens with integrity and ambition (this is within anyone's reach) over a one that scores well on a standardized test.
[1]https://qz.com/904933/a-history-of-american-anti-immigrant-b...
Has only 2 US universities, 3 from China and 2 from Singapore (which is crazy, as there are only 4 technical universities in the first place).
I will admit that the US has some damn fine universities, but far from all the top innovation happens in the US.
Already, the centers of the deep learning universe are in Toronto and London, neither of which is in the United States. France is starting to have a competitive advantage in climate science by promising American scientists the French won't strangle their funding forever, thus exerting a brain drain.
The United States can either feed its brains at the K-12, university, and research science levels, or those brains will go work for someone who promises to fund them and let them do their jobs.
Just a datapoint to support that statement. There was a drop of 3% and accelerating in first-time international students going to college in the United States. Similarly, the number of American students electing to study abroad increased by 4%. The US has long been a place that valued smart, aspiring people in the nation and from around the world, it looks like more students early in life are putting down different bets for their futures.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-international-stude...
My alma mater has had to shorten its semester by something like four or five weeks since I was there, due to state-level austerity. This kind of thing has become normal at public universities across the USA, so your "cheap" (ie: ~$14k/year) in-state tuition is now buying strictly less education. Research is centralizing to the most elite institutions, or going abroad. There was a government shutdown in 2013 that literally cut off the flow of already awarded NSF funding into academic coffers.
Meanwhile, Canada considers $10k/year for tuition to be expensive, and hasn't cut everything to the bone. Australia and New Zealand are similar. Parts of Continental Europe have dirt-cheap degree programs (on the order of $5k/year, even for foreigners), some of which are conducted in English, and others of which require you to speak the language.
If you do take a high-quality degree abroad, you can either subsequently apply for a work permit and enjoy better basic labor provisions than you'd usually get in the United States (cheap health-care and lengthy vacations as defaults), or come back to work at a high-paying American job if you can get one. It's a more diversified portfolio, you could say.
This has gotten to be a serious rot, like mushrooms growing out of a dead tree. The USA has gotten too used to importing its STEM professionals by brain-draining countries who seriously invest in education, and itself radically under-investigating in both STEM professionals and skilled tradespeople. You can't run a First World economy on nothing but low-level laborers, asset managers, and business owners.
I mean, sure, if someone has to do the real work but nobody does the real education, that probably means that us personally who got educated and trained in the "good old days" will have more bargaining power for salaries, but we'll also face a "hole" in the labor market of suitable juniors to train.
Google employs 74,000 people, so, there are a thousand times more students than Google employees, and obviously not all of those employees are working on AI; I assume most of them are sales & admin.
Facebook employs less than a third of that at 20,000.
A drop in the ocean compared to all the students that are being chronically underserved and undereducated.
The big issue is how we fund schools. It is based on the value of your home divided by the number of children that lives in said homes. Since the richer you are the less children you have they get more money. http://www.economist.com/node/21561112
Until we take the funding of school's to the state level we can talk till we are blue in the face and we will continue to have a "Divide." I don't understand why the AARP and other groups don't jump on the bandwagon and remove the burden of school tax off the backs of fixed income home owners. Fair funding is the foundation that will happen only if the US Court System steps in, because I can't see this happening any other way.
For Pennsylvania they have the biggest gap in the nation with the poorest Charter School Law in America. http://fairfundingpa.org/resources/infographics/
There's another way to put that: America's well-off suburbs have very good schools, but most of America does not. We need some numbers on the concentration of school-age children into good suburban districts versus "bad" inner-city and rural districts.
http://hechingerreport.org/struggling-cities-and-excelling-s...
The issue is defining suburbs. Usually it is Rural vs City (Which includes suburbs)