Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by yequalsx on Sunday November 19, 2017 @10:49PM
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Facebook learned the lesson of MySpace; buy any competitor that looks like it's gaining traction. Facebook has the resources to engage in this strategy. It's going to be a lot harder to disrupt Facebook as a company than it was to disrupt MySpace. I'm not claiming this is a reason to regulate Facebook. Just that saying MySpace was disrupted is not a reason to not regulate Facebook.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by em3rgent0rdr on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:00PM
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Facebook won't be able to buy up a distributed open-source p2p alternative.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by pat2man on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:01PM
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A p2p alternative isn't likely to be able to compete due to the massive income generated by Facebook's advertising platform.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by xj9 on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:19PM
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actually, that's the point of p2p: it doesn't cost developers anything. I don't have to "win" at market share to make it either, just enough mass to develop a self-sustaining community of users and developers. I don't have to make a ton of money for it to be worth it either. my infrastructure costs are effectively zero, so I'm really paying for my time. I can use liberapay and crypto to take donations/tips, I can sell my expertise in p2p as a contractor, &c.
the most important point is that I can keep going indefinitely as long as I don't get bored, because you can't outspend me if it doesn't cost me anything to keep going.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by em3rgent0rdr on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:06PM
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Not necessarily. For instance, Facebook still can't get rid of email.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by quickthrower2 on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:49PM
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> a distributed open-source p2p alternative
Like talking to people, in real life: face to face?
They're making a dent in that.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by yequalsx on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:32PM
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I suspect that state actors won’t allow such a system to reach critical mass.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by fahayekwasright on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:33PM
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Facebook has sufficient accumulation of capital to make this impossible. Build something good enough to challenge them and you will get purchased.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by dreamdu5t on Monday November 20, 2017 @01:17AM
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Facebook does not have the power to force people to sell to them. They do not have the power to force people to use Facebook. That's a fact. It's a free website, that people use of their own accord, at their own discretion. Just like someone that chooses to read NYT.
The call to regulate a free press (Facebook) is far more disturbing than any targeted advertising Facebook is engaged in.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by fahayekwasright on Monday November 20, 2017 @03:06AM
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FB’s power is not a binary of either “can force” or “can’t force.” But they can offer an amount so high it’s hard to say no, and they can manipulate their users’ attention in ever more complex and subtle ways.
I don’t consider FB a pure evil, just a potential danger. Their moral hazard is comparable to that of a heroin dealer—-they are incentivized to get you using the product as much as possible, regardless of the possibility that more than a small amount could be harmful.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by armenarmen on Monday November 20, 2017 @03:26AM
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Offering an extremely high price that surpasses the sellers expectations + potential buyers remorse and making a sale "hard to say no to" is not force. It is not Don Corleone making an offer they cannot refuse. Let's not equate voluntary exchange with a mugging
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by fahayekwasright on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:59AM
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I agree, it’s not force. I just don’t think “force” in the literal sense is required to make it a scary situation.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by conanbatt on Monday November 20, 2017 @01:47AM
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If they have to buy you, then its not really a monopoly. Thats how you would constantly gnaw at their position.
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by beejamin on Monday November 20, 2017 @05:13PM
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Assuming that they accrete whatever they buy and use it, that strategy has less and less effect over time,
Re:We Can’t Trust Facebook to Regulate Itself
by alphaalpha101 on Monday November 20, 2017 @01:18AM
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So don't say yes when they offer to purchase you
Just stop using it, it really isn't that important.