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Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by pg on Sunday April 22, 2007 @10:36AM (#15717)
Possibly people were offended more by the plagiarism than the desire to fund startups in Europe. It is a bit much calling the thing Y Europe, for example. Seed funding doesn't require your name begin with Y.
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by yaacovtp on Sunday April 22, 2007 @08:49PM (#15839)
Especially when the "Y" part of the name actually means something in context. Too bad ybother.com is gone. It could have make for a great name for a web 2.0 graveyard.
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by Sam_Odio on Sunday April 22, 2007 @11:43AM (#15732)
It also implies a collaboration with YC, which doesn't exist.

Regardless, I think it will be hard to fully replicate the YC model, because it's unlikely these firms will generate the following YC has. This following equates to attention, press, prestige and connections for all the new YC companies.

Without all that, all you have is an angel investor. And there's nothing new about that.

Really, when it comes down to it, this is just an enormous validation for what's happening here. After all, "imitation is the best form of flattery."

Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by jey on Sunday April 22, 2007 @12:12PM (#15739)
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

Really, these guys aren't claiming to be YCombinator II. They're just validating the model and wanting to do something similar in Europe. They clearly state on their page "This site is inspired by, but not affiliated with YCombinator."

The YCombinators should be flattered, and everyone who participates in YC can give themselves a pat on the back for being funded by the original YC-style firm. [Hm, that has a nice ring: "YC funding" vs "VC funding". I wonder if that was intentional.]

Edit: Oh, now I see that they only added the disclaimer after a post in this thread called them out on it...

Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by create_account on Sunday April 22, 2007 @05:26PM (#15809)
You're right about the YC idea of small amounts for seed funding.

But copying the name, the index page slideshow, the application form: isn't that just out and out plaigarism?

Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by randallsquared on Sunday April 22, 2007 @06:41PM (#15823)
If they're not claiming it's their work, I'd say it isn't plaigarism. (And they don't appear to be, as of comment time).
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by pg on Tuesday April 24, 2007 @01:47AM (#16226)
Though this graphic joke wasn't planned, we did notice early on that YC was VC with, ah, more masculine characteristics.
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by create_account on Sunday April 22, 2007 @05:27PM (#15810)
Ok, Odio, that's enough sucking up out of you.
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by Sam_Odio on Sunday April 22, 2007 @05:51PM (#15812)
I'm surprised you think that's sucking up. Was it that I was complimenting the YC business model? Please elaborate...

I'm not sure what motivation I would have to suck up, either. I'm not applying for funding, nor do I have any plans to.

However the point remains, without the YC's following (us), the company is just another angel investor / incubator. And that's already been done. These guys are trying to copy YC, but forgetting about its one biggest differentiating factor.

Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by randallsquared on Sunday April 22, 2007 @06:38PM (#15822)
It's funny. Laugh. Probably he wasn't serious. :)
Re:Y Combinator Clone in Vienna, Austria launches by ntoshev on Sunday April 22, 2007 @06:27PM (#15819)
I'm going to be a little harsh here.

Most people don't care much about plagiarism, they just think YC is a much better deal than its clones. And it is all about perception. The current clones look lame even at a first glance. If another tech celebrity tries to do the same thing, it would be a different story. A track record of successful startups would help you, but if you are right about the major shift towards startups, there is no way on Earth to keep all that market for yourself.