Re:Denver Radically Expanded Its Transit, So Why Are More Pe...
by gok on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:55PM
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> Cars are too cheap because we subsidize them too much, in terms of roads, parking lots and so on.
I find this argument increasingly tired. Car sales themselves are not directly subsidized. Yeah taxes build roads, but that's largely covered by fuel taxes. And roads are used by trucks and buses too. We could tax parking more than we do, but just because we could tax something and aren't doesn't mean that we're subsidizing it. I appreciate there are some exceptions where cash-strapped cities are leaving money on the table, but that's rare.
Better mass transit is certainly a good idea, but the excuse every time it doesn't work out is "cars are cheating." It looks more like a lot of transit systems are being designed, built and operated incompetently.
Re:Denver Radically Expanded Its Transit, So Why Are More Pe...
by chadgeidel on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:12PM
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Streetsblog has extensively covered the Denver parking issue. https://denver.streetsblog.org/category/parking/
Re:Denver Radically Expanded Its Transit, So Why Are More Pe...
by cattleprodigy on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:11PM
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Yeah, I thought the cost of car ownership was under-explored in this article. If increasing public ridership is a goal then it might help to use sticks and not just carrots.
Re:Denver Radically Expanded Its Transit, So Why Are More Pe...
by YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:25PM
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Well, it's not like public transit is not subsidized... people who commute with a car pay taxes, too.
Cars are too cheap because we subsidize them too much, in terms of roads, parking lots and so on. It still strikes me as crazy that >$1B in land value (back of the envelope calculation) of Manhattan is dedicated to FREE street parking.
Likewise in most places population density is too low as a consequence of just how much land there is and as a matter of policy. It's crazy to me that in a city like Atlanta (for example) you can get 1-2 acre lots.