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Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by Balgair on Thursday November 16, 2017 @12:49PM (#15714756)
Southern Indiana comes to mind.

Here is the SPLC's interactive map of 'hate groups' in operation. Though the density seems, to my eyes, correlate strongly with population, there are still a fair few assholes out here.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by creaghpatr on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:16PM (#15715045)
The SPLC is not a credible organization for mapping 'hate groups'
Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by extra88 on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:52PM (#15715366)
While I think their definition of "hate group" is sometimes too expansive (e.g. religious groups that are mostly about something else but disagree with gay marriage), SPLC is still credible.
Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by creaghpatr on Thursday November 16, 2017 @03:51PM (#15716499)
That's the point here. The parent comment is leveraging the credibility of the SPLC to smear a community/region based on the organization's subjective definition of 'hate groups'.

An interactive 'hate map' seems to encourage this form of stereotyping. It's all about the branding. It works because there's always a kernel of truth in stereotypes (I'm sure there are true hate groups in Indiana), but that raises larger questions about stereotyping regions or races or religions or anything for that matter.

Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by extra88 on Thursday November 16, 2017 @06:11PM (#15717565)
I don't think they're smearing. There is a cluster of white nationalist groups in southern Indiana but I don't think that means people are generally more racist there than say, Ohio.

The two things I take away from looking at the map are 1) it's not just a southern thing (which I think is a misconception they're explicitly trying to correct) and 2) the hate group density correlates with population centers pretty well (which is often the case for maps of people).

Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by Balgair on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:44PM (#15715305)
Why?
Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by stcredzero on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:39PM (#15716908)
Because there are people in the SLPC who are abusing the reputation of the organization as a political weapon. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-muslim who wants to reform the society she came from and Majid Nawaz is a muslim reformer. Labeling what they are doing and saying as "hate speech" is intellectual dishonesty.
Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by Balgair on Thursday November 16, 2017 @05:12PM (#15717155)
No offense, but I'm going to believe the SPLC in general all the same. They have a pretty good track record over the decades. Yeah, if they screwed up 2 things, that's not good and they should fix it. But, a 99.9% 'correct' rate is pretty damn good all the same.

You should email them and tell them though, I'm sure they would want to correct anything they are wrong about. Smearing people incorrectly is something I imagine they would want to make right.

https://www.splcenter.org/contact-us

Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by stcredzero on Thursday November 16, 2017 @05:26PM (#15717251)
They have a pretty good track record over the decades.

They seemed to have taken a "hockey stick" turn in the past several years.

Yeah, if they screwed up 2 things, that's not good and they should fix it.

There's more than just those two things.

You should email them and tell them though, I'm sure they would want to correct anything they are wrong about.

There's already a lawsuit.

Smearing people incorrectly is something I imagine they would want to make right.

I've had pretty much the same thought, but my conclusion is that their definition of "right" has become essentially tribal, and that they feel justified in using their reputation as a partisan weapon, because in their minds, their ends justify those means.

Re:On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality by Balgair on Sunday November 19, 2017 @01:56PM (#15735267)
You provide no sources. Please update.