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Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by ruddct on Thursday November 16, 2017 @11:39AM (#15714052)
I suspect it's more of a cultural/political problem than a density problem. NYC has a considerably higher population density than Tokyo and has an abysmally expensive/inefficient rail system.

American public transportation systems, even here in the densest part of the country, are easy political whipping boys. Blame whatever you'd like (cars, highways, unions, politicians, etc), it appears that Americans don't care too much about fixing their transportation infrastructure if those fixes don't involve cars.

Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by GolDDranks on Thursday November 16, 2017 @12:14PM (#15714432)
> NYC has a considerably higher population density than Tokyo

It's the other way around, Tokyo has higher population density:

New York City: Land area: 784 km2 Population density: 10,431 ppl / km2

The Special Wards of Tokyo: Land area: 619 km2 Population density: 15,146 ppl / km2

Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by luckyt on Thursday November 16, 2017 @12:35PM (#15714627)
This comparison seems a bit unfair -- the special wards are the most densely populated parts of Tokyo. You should compare either New York City <-> Tokyo Metro Area, or Special Wards of Tokyo <-> Manhattan.
Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by majormajor on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:41PM (#15715284)
This is an interesting comparison in its own right.

Manhattan: 27,799/km2 and 59.13 km2

So that's denser than the overall special wards area, but also vastly smaller in both land and total population. Basically 1.6 million people vs 9.4 million people.

Probably significantly easier to have an extensive train network when you're consistently dense for that large an area.

But I would agree that the main reason the US's public transit infrastructure is lacking is just that we like our cars too much. I expect this to get even more pro-car in a self-driving-car world, too.

Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by timr on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:07PM (#15714940)
"This comparison seems a bit unfair"

It's not just unfair, it's completely absurd. Tokyo sprawls like crazy, and a big percentage of the population lives in the outer wards. The special wards are high density, but expensive.

As soon as you go outside of the Yamanote line, the population density of Tokyo falls dramatically (probably to Brooklyn levels). Take the train 10-15 minutes outside of that, and you find lots of detached houses and open land. Yet it's all "Tokyo", and this land area is counted when you see the huge population of the city referenced online.

Tokyo has become a fantasy for people in America who think that urban density solves all problems. Most of these people have not ventured outside of the tourist regions of the city.

Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by seanmcdirmid on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:48PM (#15715334)
To be fair, NYC technically includes Long Island. It isn’t obvious how to compare the two cities at all.
Re:Apology after Japanese train departs 20 seconds early by gowld on Thursday November 16, 2017 @06:38PM (#15717708)
Only a small part of Long Island. Are you thinking of Staten Island?