Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by djsumdog on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @10:04PM
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One of the big problems in America is simply not effectively treating drug use and addiction. Putting people in jail doesn't stop drug use.
You're talking about big distributors, not individual users. Portugal has probably had the best response to drug use, evaluation each case individually and helping people quit drugs when it interferes with their lives.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by icebraining on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:24AM
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Portugal still jails non-violent drug dealers, defined only by the amount you're carrying.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by retailbuyout on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:02AM
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Well, I thought we were discussing “any non-violent drug crime”. Obviously i’m for rehabilitaion for users; what would the downside be? Could you educate me?
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by lisper on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:02PM
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> I’m not so sure we should allow people to sell fentanyl pops or cocaine to kids without going to prison.
You don't need specific drug laws for that. Child endangerment laws are enough.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by retailbuyout on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:02AM
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This is possibly true; i have no clue what these laws entailed. So imagine trying to convince the rest of the country.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by SomeStupidPoint on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:33PM
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> Child endangerment laws are enough.
Are they, for small doses?
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by int_19h on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @10:50PM
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Drugs are either harmful or they're not.
If/when they demonstrably are, those laws should be enough.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday November 16, 2017 @12:00AM
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Aspirin is harmful. Water is harmful.
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by drdeca on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:06AM
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Presumably they meant in the way that it was being used in the situation being considered?
Re:New Orleans man locked up nearly 8 years awaiting trial, ...
by SomeStupidPoint on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @10:57PM
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....Dosing has everything to do with how harmful something is.
Otherwise, the term overdosing wouldn't exist.
As I see it, we need both a propaganda campaign pointing out how nuts the drug laws are in addition to some recognizable way of incrementally easing the laws and adjusting to it. That’s the rational thing an individual would do anyway; i am more aware than ever you need to parcel these things into 2 year steps for american power transfers between parties.
To the person who downvoted me, this is distinctly less useful than contributing the conversation in a meaningul manner.