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Re:What would happen if all Americans went vegan? by eighthnate on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:41PM (#15707539)
> The health benefits of a whole food plant based diet are astonishing

No. The health benefits of a balanced diet is astonishing. Vegan diets are just as bad for humans as meatatarian diets.

> and the whole missing vitamin mineral thing is trivially taken care of.

It isn't.

> Becoming vegan will lead to immediate and long term health benefits.

No it won't. Having a balanced diet will. That's why all the oldest people are omnivores.

Humans are built to be omnivores.

A vegan diet is a terrible diet for humans. That's why it has to be augmented so much. The cult of veganism has to be countered just like any other cult.

Re:What would happen if all Americans went vegan? by qume on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @10:48PM (#15710139)
There is so much to unpack and criticize here, but just for fun, i'll bite on this one:

>> and the whole missing vitamin mineral thing is trivially taken care of.

>It isn't.

I'm dead serious when I say that if you can demonstrate this, you'll be handed a PHd on a platter. Possibly a Nobel prize.

Get writing!

PS sorry can't resist, you'll get another Nobel for publishing how humans are 'built to be...'.

And the typical vegan diet is terrible. A whole food plant based diet is fundamentally different - they only share the fact that they are based on non animal products

Re:What would happen if all Americans went vegan? by eighthnate on Thursday November 16, 2017 @03:40PM (#15716397)
It's so funny that every topic on veganism, you are always to be found.

> I'm dead serious when I say that if you can demonstrate this, you'll be handed a PHd on a platter. Possibly a Nobel prize.

Are you dead serious?

> PS sorry can't resist, you'll get another Nobel for publishing how humans are 'built to be...'.

Well considering we aren't obligate carnivores and we aren't obligate herbivores, I wonder what we are?

Eating meat, just like eating vegetables, fruits, etc made us who we are. We are actually built by our food consumption evolutionarily speaking.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature16990.epdf

> And the typical vegan diet is terrible.

Yes. Because it's not ones humans are designed for.

> A whole food plant based diet is fundamentally different - they only share the fact that they are based on non animal products

Yikes. That just sounds like a rebranding of a terrible idea. Kind of like how "neo-nazis" rebranded to alt-right.

Balanced diet including meat, veggies, etc > vegan/whole food diet. Human society has proven this to be true. The dominant human society is the balanced diet society. No vegan society nor meat-only society truly exists.