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Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by callahad on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @02:01PM (#15698093)
Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome.

- If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto...

- Firefox has built-in tracking protection (https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/11/12/firefox-to-offer...)

- Powerful add-ons like Tree Style Tab make managing large numbers of tabs much easier (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/)

- Our WebAssembly performance tends to be better

- We should have better resource utilization when you have many tabs open

- You can mute audio on a page clicking the little speaker icon in the tab

If you want to contribute to the DevTools themselves, they're built using standard web technologies: HTML/JS, React/Redux, etc. https://github.com/devtools-html/

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by Namrog84 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @02:41PM (#15698419)
> - You can mute audio on a page clicking the little speaker icon in the tab

Although I don't know if chrome has this on by default nowadays as I turned it on so long ago.

But mute audio on per tab via speaker icon is available in chrome as well.

in chrome://flags/

* Tab audio muting UI control

If enabled, you can mute/unmute per tab via doing same thing.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by koot on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:10PM (#15698673)
Yes, it's been enable as default for a while now. But again firefox is awesome and the 57 version is simple blazing fast
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by johndoe489 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:39PM (#15698886)
Front end dev here. The main issue I have for now is that whenever I hit CTRL Shift C to open the console, you can clearly see the thing draw itself for nearly one full second. It would be fine if it somehow cached, but if you close it and open again, same delay.

Short of being able to optimize it soon, perhaps you could try buffering and displaying it at once. It would look less clunky and flimsy.

That said I'm giving FF57 a run as my main browser, will keep using Chrome Dev Tools for now.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by aquadrop on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @05:15PM (#15699705)
You've switched to multiple processes model, but you don't have "task manager" as Chrome. Do you plan to implement it in the future?
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by Yoric on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @05:47PM (#15699957)
Working on it right now, but no ETA yet.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by aquadrop on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @07:54PM (#15700683)
Ok, thanks. I hope you make it even more informative than the Chrome's one :)
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by chris_wot on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @07:01PM (#15700425)
Please, that's one of the most useful troubleshooting tools in Chrome.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by Santosh83 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @05:40PM (#15699903)
about:performance is a somewhat similar substitute for now. You can see stats of the various processes and close or reload tabs.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by 0x49d1 on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @02:21AM (#15702041)
Yes.. Somewhat. For example can't see how extensions are doing from there.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by phillc73 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @04:56PM (#15699557)
> - Firefox has built-in tracking protection (https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/11/12/firefox-to-offer...)

Is there a way to selectively unblock certain trackers on a specific page?

I currently have the Tracking Protection set to Always and the block list on Strict. No problems yet, but I know there will be a few sites which won't correctly. Previously I always used Ghostery and there was a nice option to view exactly how many and which trackers were being blocked on each page. When viewing the blocked trackers, they could be selectively unblocked one at a time if required. This was handy to make some embedded video work, without necessary enabling Facebook tracking, which would occur if the whole page was unblocked.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by schuyler2d on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @06:29PM (#15700268)
Take a look at the eff's privacy badger add on, which let's you control each script/source on a per-page level
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by JoshMnem on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @08:29PM (#15700837)
Try umatrix.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by patall on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:00PM (#15698594)
especially TreeStyleTab is considerably weakend with the new update (like all extensions that now have to fit into less powerful webextension). From my point it is so bad (I lose 4 out of 6 regularly used add-ons) I am actively considering of leaving firefox for the better.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by anotheryou on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:59PM (#15699054)
What do you use? Some things are still a bit hacky, but it all comes together for me. I had everything packed, ready to move, but than came the ports :)
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by patall on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @04:29PM (#15699317)
To be honest I have not switched yet, but the changes I have seen in TreeStyleTab make me question why I should stay at firefox with that because I can get the features of the new TST in Chrome as well. Also I won't work with Colorful tabs anymore. Further I think I will miss some of the decapriated features in the Zotero update.

(And I will have to find appropiate replacements for Leechblock and FireGesture)

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by aibara on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @08:25PM (#15700826)
Leechblock is updated. The developer made it into a separate add-on though.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/leechblock-ng...

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by uglycoyote on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:55PM (#15701553)
What "TST in Chrome" are you referring to? Tree-Style Tabs are one of the main things that keeps me using Firefox over Chrome. All of the Chrome Tree-style extensions that I have tried are these hacky things that use an external window.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by hudbuddy on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @02:30PM (#15698329)
I tend to use Chrome for its devtools, but I'd add WebRTC support to the list of things Firefox excels at
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by BuckRogers on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @06:29PM (#15700267)
It also has toolbar RSS feed support. I've been using this since when Firefox was in beta (Phoenix) and it's a killer feature for me. I may use Feedly on iOS but desktop/laptop I love having the same feeds right on the toolbar. Chrome doesn't support RSS feeds in this way because there's no way to advertise with them.

Always watch where the incentives run, Chrome is for Google's best interests, not the web's and not the user's. Always has been and always will be because it's a for-profit organization.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by Avernar on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @05:14PM (#15699698)
> If you want to contribute to the DevTools themselves

I wish I had the time. So I'll have to wait for someone else to add the element DOM properties tab in thr panel that has the style rules and layout. Firebug had it, Chrome has it.

The right click and then Show DOM Properties with the results in the console pane is just painful to use.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by agentdrtran on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:49PM (#15698970)
Tree-style tabs won't be around much longer.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by callahad on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:57PM (#15699036)
Tree Style Tab is available on Firefox Quantum and will be with us for a long, long time. Piro, the author, wrote an excellent article about his experience porting TST to a WebExtension: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/latest/blosxom/mozilla/extension/tr...
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by 0x49d1 on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @02:25AM (#15702054)
Nice extension, but no search for tab option. For now I use Firefox built-in option to search for tab: open new one and start typing the title of tab, I want to find. The drawback: that search is VERY dumb and you have to exactly type the proper name, no fuzzy logic or smth at all.
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by mistermann on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @06:15PM (#15700170)
I got the new Tree Style tabs installed, but I'm still seeing the standard tabs at the top, is there a way to hide those?
Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by uglycoyote on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:58PM (#15701566)
I asked this exact question on Stack Overflow earlier today and found that someone else had already also asked it and got an answer.

https://superuser.com/questions/1261660/firefox-quantum-ver-...

(basically, hacking some CSS rules by creating a file in your AppData directory, so that the top bar is hidden)

Incidentally, I also discovered that Tree Style Tab's settings page under Firefox has a nice little box where you can configure the CSS it uses, which was nice because I prefer it with a smaller font and less padding.

Re:Firefox 57.0 Released by Sylos on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @02:44AM (#15702125)
What uglycoyote commented is the stopgap solution for now, but an API for doing that is in the works, so in a few versions from now, you shouldn't need that more-or-less hack anymore.