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Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by vog on Saturday November 11, 2017 @07:59AM (#15676153)
> I've switched to DDG half a year ago or so and haven't looked back much

Same for me. I specially like their approach to technical documentation.

Search for some web development stuff and DuckDuckGo shows you the MDN site while Google points to some outdated (and low quality and spammy) w3schools site.

Ask a question that is answered on StackOverflow? DuckDuckGo points you to StackOverflow, and even shows relevant parts of the answer. While Google points to some spam sites that are a bad rip-off of the StackOverflow content.

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by beefield on Saturday November 11, 2017 @10:44AM (#15676763)
Google has personal blocklist addon for chrome that you can use to block unwanted sites from the search results.

I just wonder why this obvious tool is not account-level functionality that works across browsers and devices. If it is because the sites that people block bring revenue to Google, then Google truly is evil.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by vog on Saturday November 11, 2017 @06:26PM (#15678756)
Even if that features worked, it would still be user hostile to force them solve a global problem locally.

If Google really cared about user experience, they would already have downscored all those low-quality sites years ago. But they don't - neither now nor back then. So either they are profiting from those low-quality sites, or they simply don't care.

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by beefield on Sunday November 12, 2017 @03:15AM (#15680159)
The more I think the more intentional this feels. I mean, if Google really wanted to filter out low quality websites out form their search results, I can't imagine much more reliable algorithm than to ask from the users to indicate the results that are bad.
Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by falcolas on Saturday November 11, 2017 @09:42AM (#15676535)
Oh, w3schools. I hate that they are always near the top of Google searches for anything even remotely web related, when what I really want is the official spec or MDN.

Just tried it right now - the top three search results for "html canvas" are all w3schools on google. They're still the top in DDG, but there's only one entry as opposed to three. Bing also only has one, but they also steal the "here's your answer" type card text from w3schools.

Congratulations on your SEO, but f' you for polluting search results.

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by tyingq on Saturday November 11, 2017 @09:50AM (#15676559)
Irritating that you have to do it, but:

html canvas -site:w3schools.com

Probably returns what you wanted.

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by nastajus on Saturday November 11, 2017 @11:49AM (#15677011)
There was a way to remove results from Google 5 years ago that worked and I've used before, but now you need to use a chrome plugin apparently this says. Post comments afterwards are still a few years old but may still apply today

https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/35786/is-there-a...

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by twsted on Saturday November 11, 2017 @11:21AM (#15676896)
This is because we are lazy and we use a search even if we could go straight to a specific site eg MDN, Stack Overflow, Wikipedia.
Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by Avernar on Saturday November 11, 2017 @03:35PM (#15678045)
For me lazy has nothing to do with it. Usually one or more of the following:

* You have to navigate a half dozen pages to get to what you want assuming you can navigate the maze of links.

* Site search incompletely indexes the site.

* Site search has poor ranking. Twenty pages of press releases and other crap mentioning what you want before the actual info.

* Site search doesn't handle spelling mistakes so you get no results.

* Site search doesn't handle related topics so if you search for the wrong or alternate phrase you miss what you need.

* No site search feature at all.

So yeah, search engine is my first choice.

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by vog on Saturday November 11, 2017 @06:33PM (#15678785)
Isn't exactly that the job of a search engine? I.e., that don't have to specify the exact site? Moreover, many searches are done be beginners who don't (yet) the best resource for what they search for.

But let's assume you use a search engine only for stuff you aren't intimately familar with - how could you trust the quality of the results? If they are so bad at the topics you know much about - why should they be better at the other topics?

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by bayonetz on Saturday November 11, 2017 @12:39PM (#15677208)
Another way to look at it is people are expressing a need to have a single good search tool rather than having to learn every individual site's search tool. Site hosted search varies wildly in quality too since many don't get much direct use (perhaps largely because most people uses general search tools like Google). I know I've built up a (usually unconscious) decision making bias that "search on site always sucks" that makes me shy away from them in. It feels like a reasonably rational decision to do so vs being garden-variety lazy.
Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by pault on Saturday November 11, 2017 @04:49PM (#15678373)
There's also the w3fools browser extension that removes w3schools from search results.
Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by rpedela on Saturday November 11, 2017 @02:41PM (#15677755)
I agree. An easy workaround is to add "mdn" to the search.
Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by vog on Saturday November 11, 2017 @06:31PM (#15678776)
That was my workaround, too.

But now I have a better workaround which doesn't only work for mdn, but any other high-quality resource: I edited my browser settings to use a different search engine by default. (currently DDG)

Re:Is it time to stop trusting Google search? by jlgaddis on Saturday November 11, 2017 @10:50PM (#15679561)
It's a bit more work but, alternatively, you could also add a "new" search engine to your browser that uses a custom keyword (e.g. "!mdn") and passes your query to the search interface on the MDN site.