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Re:USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B ap... by bbatha on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @04:56PM (#15648033)
> We take a 23yo Chinese engineering graduate as he's going to begin peak productivity - the USA didn't have to invest in his k-12, scholarship his university, clean the water he drank for 24 years, etc. Instantaneous social profit.

That's only the half of it. The US gives out far more F-1 student visas than H-1Bs (roughly 3x). That means that US infrastructure trains the student, but then the US doesn't get to take advantage of his or her output. Its really a lose-lose for the US.

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Re:USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B ap... by sib on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @05:31PM (#15648302)
Although, in most cases, the university is using the international students to fund university operations and education (typically without reducing tuition price through financial aid) that brings value to the domestic students...
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Re:USCIS is challenging an unusually large number of H-1B ap... by grad_ml on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @02:12AM (#15650398)
In the new order, aws infrastructure is same for every one! Consider OPT students getting trained in a early stage startups, do not get H1b after 2-3 years, what would he do? Quite few of them(smart, ambitious ones) will go back home and will compete on the similar products. You can think, schools educated them for quite of money but they got so more in return. I personally believe, every penny invested in CS/math education is worth it.
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