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Re:Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia by mtgx on Monday November 06, 2017 @08:56AM (#15635402)
Intel has already displaced Nvidia in most laptops because its integrated graphics got "good enough". Some OEMs continue to add low-end Nvidia graphics to Intel-based laptops, even though they have the same or less performance than Intel's graphics, simply because they don't want Intel to think they are their exclusive supplier and can raise prices at will.

What this deal will do is allow Intel to become the de-facto leader in the growing "laptop gaming" market, displacing both Nvidia and AMD from that market. AMD had a chance to dominate that market now with multi-core Ryzen CPUs and its dedicated GPUs, but it seems they've just decided to hand that market over to Intel on a silver platter.

Such a huge mistake from AMD. This is why I would rather AMD would be acquired by someone like Samsung or Broadcom to give AMD the money it needs than do stupid deals like this one with Intel because it's so strapped for cash.

Re:Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia by bitL on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:00AM (#15635429)
I guess AMD is betting on EPYC; desktop is not progressing much and they are non-existing on laptops either, possibly blocked by Intel on the vendor level, so it's better for them to get a few % of profit instead of none from this segment.
Re:Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia by lettergram on Monday November 06, 2017 @09:08AM (#15635496)
Exactly my thoughts. I posted in a comment below (also responding to mtgx). Essentially, the laptop chips AMD can produce are still slightly better (well, cheaper) - it's just they can't get into the market for a few years until vendors are up again.
Re:Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia by com2kid on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:17PM (#15638108)
> Some OEMs continue to add low-end Nvidia graphics to Intel-based laptops, even though they have the same or less performance than Intel's graphics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0MeI0sQfy4

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmar...

Intel's highest end can't meet Nvidia's lowest end embedded, which can be had at a very affordable price.

Re:Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia by paulmd on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:56PM (#15637869)
> Some OEMs continue to add low-end Nvidia graphics to Intel-based laptops, even though they have the same or less performance than Intel's graphics

The only competitive part from Intel is Iris Pro 580 with the Crystal Well cache, and those parts are capital-E expensive.