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Re:The end of the cloud is coming by ianai on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:04AM (#15633837)
What am I missing?
Re:The end of the cloud is coming by jfoutz on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:22AM (#15633895)
Debugging nat. it's, well, unpleasant. ipv6 has a whole lot more address space than ipv4. it obviates the need for nat. i think the standard deal is a /64 for your router. you can roll addresses every half hour forever, if you want to.

nat is just a bunch of glued together heuristics about how things should work. it's not fun to debug. i mean, you have 2^32 internets worth of space to assign to machines. everything is so much simpler without nat.

i dunno. maybe i'm an idiot. maybe nat is super cool, and i'm just jaded. imho it makes things very difficult. but i'll defer to the majority. whether i want to or not.

Re:The end of the cloud is coming by FeepingCreature on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:06AM (#15633846)
One of the hopes for IPv6 was that it'd deliver us from IP address scarcity and hence the need for NAT and all the associated difficulty of NAT traversal.
Re:The end of the cloud is coming by hardwaresofton on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:45AM (#15633955)
This is what I thought -- why would you neet Network Address Translation (NAT) when the address space is big enough to have everyone have an individual address? No need to traverse a router, it just becomes another hop in the chain.
Re:The end of the cloud is coming by dagw on Monday November 06, 2017 @05:37AM (#15634566)
Another positive (unintended) consequence of needing NAT everywhere is that it means most devices end up behind some sort of firewall by default.