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Re:A New Twist on Neural Networks by nkoren on Friday November 03, 2017 @03:18PM (#15621598)
> But don't fool yourself. Humans and well..life..are just input output machines with incredible pattern matching capabilities.

See, that seems to me like a statement of faith which I just don't share. I think that building relational models of the world via abstract inductive reasoning is qualitatively different than pattern matching. I don't think there's some magic tonnage of pattern matching at which abstract inductive reasoning will suddenly emerge. I don't think that they're isomorphic. I think the AI toolkit still has a few missing pieces.

Re:A New Twist on Neural Networks by goldenkey on Saturday November 04, 2017 @03:27AM (#15624137)
The only way to induce a consequence in a scenario is to have pattern matched the scenario. Pattern matching can be very abstract. It can use programs that may not halt. You are conflating patterns with exact details. A pattern can be as general as "[wildcard]." The human psyche promotes survival over *, every scenario.

You talk about representations and reasoning but are not assessing the fact that the human brain is literally a decision maker, acting on stored procedures and memory. Any representations and any reasoning will only apply to a select scenario or select objects, regardless to how you wish to define the pattern, the fact that a subset of abstractness/generality out of the whole of existence is specified, implies a pattern that is coded for implicitly or explicitly.

Re:A New Twist on Neural Networks by folksinger on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @10:03AM (#15653054)
You claim to have the facts on the human brain?

My God, the level of hubris expressed by members of the cult of AI has reached a fever-pitch.

Stored procedures and memory?

Newton, in the age of clocks, managed to present the universe in the image of a clock. Is it any wonder that computer programmers present the universe in the image of the computer?