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Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by rando444 on Thursday November 02, 2017 @07:17AM (#15609352)
A large tech company allowing cellphones on their internal network sounds extremely bizarre.

Cellphones should be on an untrusted/guest wireless connection, if they need access to corporate resources they should access them over the internet or VPN just like they would if they were anywhere else with their phones.

Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by 2-4-Flinching on Thursday November 02, 2017 @09:55AM (#15610380)
That sounds terrible.

That is a crazy amount of bandwidth usage to VPN out and then back into the the network through the same pipe is a waste. Not counting the licenses and even the ability to maintain that many connections at a given time. Going off of the use cases I have actually done.

It not hard to setup WPA2 Enterprise with assigned VLAN access, heck you can even assign it based on the device, meaning Joe signs in on his laptop and he gets internal access but when he signs in on his cellphone it goes straight out. Each connection is assigned based on need and checked by the IT department.

The OP doesn't even say they are given internal access just network access, which could be straight out to the internet. The majority of cellphones used in my company are VLAN straight to the internet but there are cases where tablets and cellphones need access to server and shares that they are assigned to a VLAN they are on.

Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by rando444 on Thursday November 02, 2017 @03:23PM (#15613429)
I regret mentioning VPN. Most people don't VPN with their phones, it's possible, but most people don't. They use their phone to access their company e-mail and sometimes other services which are open on the internet already. It's a small amount of traffic compared to the cost of trying to maintain an entire separate network just for some one-off use cases, forcing people to sign-in, register their devices, maintain the network, etc.

Of course there are special cases for tablets and such, but you'd treat those differently than someone's personal phone.

If they were given a connection "straight out to the internet" then it's even more bizarre to require strict regulations about their phones.

I see no advantages to letting people's personal phones on a corporate network.

Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by metilda on Thursday November 02, 2017 @07:33AM (#15609418)
Sounds like bad Infosec policies at work. I doubt they have VLANs, everything can likely access everything internally.
Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by 2-4-Flinching on Thursday November 02, 2017 @10:03AM (#15610440)
I love the egotistical assumption that they have a bad Infosec policy and don't have VLANs based on basically one sentence.

Here is one: "They connected computers to their network" The assumed security risk are endless and 100% of companies do it!! Such idiots, to connect a computer to a network!

Re:People are keeping their cell phones a lot longer by slyall on Thursday November 02, 2017 @02:39PM (#15613062)
I'm not sure which network they use at the office but I think he was mainly talking about reading email.