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Re:Angular 5.0.0 by vilmosi on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @06:04PM (#15605920)
Of course it's fair. When comparing React with Angular it's only fair to compare the react ecosystem with angular.

Nobody ever built an SPA in production with just React.

Re:Angular 5.0.0 by vosper on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @07:12PM (#15606356)
OTOH I'd be amazed if no-one's built an SPA in production with React and nothing else from the React ecosystem. What would be so hard about that? You can totally use it as just a view layer, if that's what you want to do. Granted, you probably use other non-React libraries, but that's not what we're talking about.
Re:Angular 5.0.0 by tptacek on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @11:05PM (#15607520)
You can also have a "view layer", some control flow behavior in simple higher-order components, and then stores and actions that are simple plain-ol'-Javascript without needing a framework dep. The idea that a React app without Redux and react-router must simply be a brainless view layer is reductive and misleading.
Re:Angular 5.0.0 by chrisco255 on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:54PM (#15607474)
Right, I'm sure there's some Rails and Django folks out there just using React as the view layer. Plus as someone mentioned above, Next.js is one of the simplest ways to do full stack React.