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Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by agumonkey on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:13AM (#15601260)
It's indeed not a happy thing to see Ars publishing this. In the old days of Jon Stokes CPU articles what AMD did would get never ending streams of articles.

Considering what AMD went through, I indulge in a bit of AMD fanboyism at times, I try to avoid it. Some articles compare the latest Intel releases with AMD, and they often end up saying "ok Intel still has a 10% perf lead in half the tests, but .. twice the price". Am I the only one to consider what AMD did a miracle ? is it Intel friend network turning this into a "meh" ?

Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by tyfon on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:24AM (#15601369)
I have bought intel for the last 15-20 years, however my next workstation/gaming computer will have a threadripper of some sort.

I have never been a fanboy of either but for my use case it's a nobrainer right now. Even if I was a fanboy I'd have a hard time justifying getting an intel chip.

Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by old-gregg on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @12:34PM (#15602935)
I thought so too. But when I looked into typical software engineering workloads, I found that i9-7900x soundly beats the 16-core Threadripper in nearly all compiling/linking/running tests workloads because of the 20% per-core advantage. It also ended up being cheaper because x299 motherboards cost less.
Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by agumonkey on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:28AM (#15601408)
I don't have desktops, I'm waiting to see their laptop CPUs.
Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by digi_owl on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:40AM (#15601527)
Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by darklajid on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @01:50PM (#15603723)
I'm commenting on these things right now because I still didn't buy a laptop and need one soon/now.

There's no ryzen based laptop atm (regional limits might apply).

One Asus gaming laptop that is basically a desktop that you can carry around, with effort, and that has no battery life to speak of. Not available here.

Two Lenovo laptops (Thinkpad A series and Ideapad), both seem restricted in terms of CPU (aka not the 2700), don't come with the latest GPU or memory (single channel or unknown or limited to 8 GB). None of these is available.

The HP x360. Fancy, limited to 8 GB as it seems. Also doesn't come with the latest APU (only announced for 2500U). Not available yet.

The Acer Swift 3. Limited to 8 GB as far as I can tell. Aaaand not available.

Bottom line: You cannot get a laptop with either the mobile chips or the monster gaming thing now. They exist somewhere, but not here. Most of the announced devices have crippling limitations (memory) and are - for me, someone who deeply sympathizes with AMD - basically DOA. Which probably reinforces the manufacturer's opinion that they should just create Intel based products...?

I want one. I can't get any of these. All of these are kinda bad / quite limited / would be a "I want them for the AMD label, although they suck in some ways" decision.

Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by snvzz on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @03:49PM (#15604845)
I'm on a similar situation. I'm looking for a smallish, throw-into-any-backback-and-carry-everywhere laptop. The new chips are interesting, but the few launch devices all have one flaw or another.

Fortunately, I can live without such a laptop, for now. I'll just keep an eye out for updates.

Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by tyfon on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @10:56AM (#15601677)
I suspect this will go into the next generation of consoles too. Both xbox and ps4 (also pro and x version) contain the old jaguar core from amd.

But what's up with the single channel ram in the ibm one? Both of the others have dual-channel.

Re:AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after ... by digi_owl on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @02:29PM (#15604123)
Yeah that AMD managed to land the supply contract for both Sony and Microsoft is a big deal.