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Re:What are some of the most disliked programming languages? by shakna on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @04:26AM (#15599575)
> Ruby doesn't have macros and all the magic in its ecosystem is confined to Rails

Then what would you call the method_missing method?

> a b c

> = Name Error

> def method_missing(*args); args.join(" "); end

> a b c

> = "a b c"

That looks exactly like a macro to me.

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> But macros?

Not macros as such, we all like having them. But Ruby likes using them constantly, and that culture is hardly restricted to Rails.

Re:What are some of the most disliked programming languages? by pmontra on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @06:18AM (#15599953)
I see your point but Matz was clear about adding macros to Ruby:

> Macro is a great power, but at the same time, it makes the languagesyntax different for each application. You will have hard time to read the program without knowledge of the application/framework macros.

> So I am not going to add macro to Ruby.

> matz.

https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/215212

The funny thing is that this is what happens when we use method_missing or other Ruby features to create DLSes: unless you know the application/framework DLS you can't understand the program. They must be used wisely.

But to be fair: how can one understand a program without the knowledge of the non standard libraries it uses? This applies to every program and language, macros or not.

Re:What are some of the most disliked programming languages? by topaxi on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @04:34AM (#15599591)
Macros and meta-programming aren't necessarily the same.