Re:Bitcoin Futures Could Open the Floodgates for Institution...
by runeks on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @05:00AM
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> [...] but there is evidence that looks "quite extraordinary" to my eye.
What evidence?
All the proponents I've heard advocating this theory have had zero evidence to back it up? Please provide yours.
Re:Bitcoin Futures Could Open the Floodgates for Institution...
by dmichulke on Wednesday November 01, 2017 @09:18AM
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Well, all I can post is conspiracy sites but here it is:
- Look at the average daily gold price and when it's lowest
http://goldsilverworlds.com/price/gold-and-silver-price-mani...
- Look at paper ounces versus real gold in Comex storage:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-03/comex-edge-delivera...
- Dumping 1.5 bn$ of Gold longs (these occur regularly, often at illiquid times)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-24/someone-just-puked-...
Is any of this proof? No. Is it strange? I'd say so.
That is interesting to say the least. There are people claiming precious metal prices are being kept artificially low using a similar way. Formally the futures have to be settled in metal but for some reason deliveries from vaults never match (i.e., they are considerably lower) the those implied by the futures standing for delivery.
Now for that to work with BTC the futures market has to get really big (in PM they say it's like 100 future oz vs 1 real oz) and they need an unlimited bankroll. At that point one can short the hell out of the futures and cash-settle if the sell avalanche doesn't affect the price as much as required.
Not saying those "conspiracy theories about PM manipulation" are true (I have no way to know) but there is evidence that looks "quite extraordinary" to my eye.