The concept of schizophrenia is dying

Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @07:10AM (#15592317)

The problem with cannabis is its extreme variance of effects. Some people like yourself seem to have very positive effects. Myself, I've consumed a whole wack of different drugs including the usual psychedelics plus various dissociatives over the years and cannabis is easily the most unpleasant in its effects on me.

Paranoia, very unpleasant thoughts and paranoia, sad feeling, accentuated body pain (I have chronic back/hip pain), headaches, anxiety. It's basically the opposite of what THC advocates seem to describe. And I've consumed quite a bit of it.

Hopefully along with legalization we can see a lot less proselytizing and some more realistic and scientific analysis.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by ionised on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @10:24AM (#15593445)

> Myself, I've consumed a whole wack of different drugs including the usual psychedelics plus various dissociatives over the years and cannabis is easily the most unpleasant in its effects on me.

I'm the same.

Cannabis is easily the most unpleasant drug for me these days (don't do them so much anymore though). It just gives me paranoia and anxiety and makes me totally unable to hold a conversation or even relax.

Compare that with LSD, MDMA, DMT where I generally have positive experiences. The only bad ones I've had are when I've foolishly taken them when not in the best of moods.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by empath75 on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @07:28AM (#15592403)

Most of those feelings are pretty common if you smoke too much pot.

I have a very low tolerance for it and while I had a few good times with it, I had what you describe happen more often than not.

But the feeling you have while on drugs generally goes away when you’re not on them. I wouldn’t assume that because taking a drug gives you a feeling that approximates a psychological problem that it would necessarily be a cause of that psychological problem beyond the time you were intoxicated.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @07:42AM (#15592475)

I don't make that assumption at all. But I've also seen many people, including family, go down a road with the drug that did in fact lead to pretty severe emotional and life function difficulties that went away after the cessation of the drug.

All of this applies to alcohol as well, surely... but that is hardly a high bar.

I was a lot more tolerant of cannabis advocacy before I had kids and before legalization came on the agenda here in Canada. Now that it will be legal I hope the emphasis shifts away from advocacy and to education for responsible use.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by empath75 on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @10:24PM (#15598444)

> did in fact lead to pretty severe emotional and life function difficulties that went away after the cessation of the drug.

I did in fact say that the psychological problems go away when you stop using the drug. Obviously if you're on drugs all the time, you're going to have problems.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by RHSman2 on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @12:16PM (#15594341)

Yes, when kids come around you view it in a different light. There are consequences of both and I'll advise my kids differently around both.

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Re:The concept of schizophrenia is dying by stephengillie on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @07:19AM (#15592359)

Which terpenes are in the plant can have a subtle but powerful impact. And THC can leverage terpenes in other foods too. Some are very calming.

And then there's the non-intoxicating CBD parts, that are becoming popular for those who want the relaxation, but not the head high.

Alcohol has a very broad scope as well, ranging from toxic cleaners, to light dessert wines, to tripel beers and "four loco" drinks. It's very easy to have a bad trip, or a fun night turn deadly.

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