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Re:Clojure vs. The Static Typing World by tome on Monday October 30, 2017 @01:45PM (#15587186)
This thread has been interesting but I think it's drifted into the realms of utter obscurity so I think we'd better leave it here. Thanks for the discussion!

I'll leave you with my parting thought: I've never used Clojure but I have used Python and Haskell. My experience is that Haskell's ("mandated") type checking allows me and the teams I've worked with to deliver far more business value than Python. If Clojure would allow me to deliver even more then that would be great, but given my experience with Python I can't see how a dynamic language would do that.

Re:Clojure vs. The Static Typing World by wellpast on Monday October 30, 2017 @03:43PM (#15588230)
I really appreciate the conversation as well.

I guess my parting thought would be that this doesn't need to be that obscure. What seems to be implied in our conversation here is that the statically typed language is not introducing any extra immediate work for the programmer. But that is just false. I think it's arguable that over time that extra work may payoff, but we're not even at that conversation yet. You seem to be suggesting that because types can be inferred and not written down in many places, then the work has been removed. But the work is not in the typing, it's in the cost of making everything consistent wrt to the type checker.