Re:Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
by archagon on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:08PM
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I actually sympathize with the NIMBY-ers quite a bit when it comes to housing. But in terms of transportation, it depresses me to know from first-hand experience how much better things could be. Better public transit is simply a win-win for almost everyone: far fewer cars, more pedestrian areas and access, an increased number of people willing to live outside the city, and streets that don't feel like DMZs. City life is categorically improved when you no longer have to shuffle streetcar schedules or chase the bus around. (Or sit in traffic for 3 hours to go across town.)
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Re:Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
by hencq on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:32PM
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This is what bothers me whenever I hear people rave about the future that driverless cars will finally make possible. They basically list your win-win list: far fewer cars, more pedestrian areas, etc. That might all be true, but we don't to wait for self-driving cars for that! Just build reliable public transportation just like countless cities have already done.
Re:Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
by ghaff on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:48PM
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>the future that driverless cars will finally make possible
I tend to think these are further away than most people think. But I also have a lot of trouble seeing how they don't massively increase traffic. Maybe you need less parking and maybe inter-car communications can make traffic move more smoothly. But does anyone seriously believe that people will drive less when they effectively have a personal driver at their beck and call?
Re:Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
by closeparen on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:37PM
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>Better public transit is simply a win-win for almost everyone
No it isn't. Many neighborhoods are quiet and/or cheap because they're difficult to access. Their residents have a vested interest in keeping it that way. You don't vote for a new subway stop if you'll be priced out or have your perception fo quiet and safety ruined by the people it brings.