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Re:Ask HN: Are there any programmable 'feature' phones? by eropple on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:31AM (#15565935)
I mean--"programmable feature phone with smartphone level programmability" is a contradiction in terms, but there are tons of Symbian devices and tons more that run J2ME.

If you want more than that, you're looking at a smartphone. Just not one you have to install much on.

Re:Ask HN: Are there any programmable 'feature' phones? by digi_owl on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:59AM (#15566048)
Err Symbian was/is a smartphone platform...
Re:Ask HN: Are there any programmable 'feature' phones? by kybernetikos on Friday October 27, 2017 @02:20AM (#15566140)
There are loads of phones from before the iPhone that could play music and run j2me apps that nobody considers 'smartphones'. I wrote apps that ran on the Sony Ericcson T610 but that still gets called a 'cameraphone'.
Re:Ask HN: Are there any programmable 'feature' phones? by digi_owl on Friday October 27, 2017 @02:37AM (#15566199)
I know and it grinds my gears all the time. Hell, when the iphone first shipped it was more featurephone than smartphone. But the MSM decided that because there is a touchscreen, there is a smartphone...
Re:Ask HN: Are there any programmable 'feature' phones? by Yetanfou on Friday October 27, 2017 @02:52AM (#15566252)
While the T610 - one of the first Sony-Ericsson devices - is not a smartphone there were many true smartphones before Apple finally joined the fray in 2007. Devices running Symbian S60 were smartphones and marketed as such in 2000 (Ericsson R380), those running Windows CE/Windows Mobile were smartphones, the Nokia Communicator (1996) was a smartphone, there were several smartphones running PalmOS (starting in 2002 with the Palm Treo), Blackberry sold smartphones, etc.