It's the same here. The middle/high school kids here are in the dark for about 5 months. Going to permanent DST would not change anything for them. Dropping DST completely would reduce that to about 3 months. See the third column in my table for the details. The rows are when they go in the dark (1) if we got rid of DST completely, (2) if we keep it as it is, and (3) if we went to permanent DST.

It's elementary school kids that it would make a big difference with. Under the current system here they are always going to school after sunrise. If we went to permanent DST, they would be going in the dark for about 2.5 months.

Well, Michigan is also insanely far west in an insanely large timezone, not to mention northerly.

And Massachusetts, especially Boston, is insanely east in the same time zone. Hence the discussion. Not as Far East as the upper coast of Maine but relatively few people live there.