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Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by schnevets on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:08PM (#15561463)
It seems so strange to have such a polished initiative on a niche project like Twilio. I can understand this for AWS, JavaScript Libraries, or SalesForce, but nobody's job title is exclusively "Twilio Engineer".

Then again, the team was always notably helpful during hackathons, and their documentation is usually on point. Maybe they recognize this as a company strength, and they are harnessing it as a way to compete with the likes of AWS/Google Cloud.

Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by newlyretired on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:35PM (#15561694)
Twilio has nearly a $3 billion market cap right now, and their signup/churn/usage rates give them a good idea on the growth potential for this market.

Nobody I know is a Twilio engineer, but nearly every backend developer I've worked with has, or wants to use, Twilio. There's something old school phreaking about using a computer to control phone systems.

They seem to believe that the market is very broad, occasionally deep (Uber was ~10% of their usage), and super cool. They haven't gotten so big to discard their focus yet playful roots (their hackathon outreach is a great example; that's where I first learned the API).

Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by iguana on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:02PM (#15564722)
I'm basically a twilio engineer now. I do a lot of telephony, but no one wants to run and scale their own stack, so everyone ends up building against REST apis. Twilio has some of the best features around reliably placing calls, sending texts, and the most enjoyable developer experience of any api I've ever used, including outside of telephony. I've built a 100% serverless contact center, among other things. Twilio Sync RT infra is also fantastic. Their WebRTC service was total shit through 2014 but is better now.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by lucasverra on Friday October 27, 2017 @04:02AM (#15566514)
I've heard it's not the best solution in Europe. What can you tell about it ?
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by malloryerik on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:27PM (#15564862)
Would you use their WebRTC offering, or is there a better alternative?
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by iguana on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:53PM (#15565004)
Sure, I'd use it, but under the following conditions:

- wired ethernet

- lots of guard code that reconnects failed calls

- customer is aware they will not get 5 9's or even 3 9's.

Typically using WebRTC means a significant cost savings, so it may or may not be worthwhile to build out the additional stuff needed to make it work.

Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by graphitezepp on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:35PM (#15561690)
Stuff like this and their hackathon reps are why I care about Twilio in the first place. I have suggested its use professionally before and I would have never remembered the service existed if it wasn't for a great hackathon experience using it where the rep was very helpful.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by kfriede on Thursday October 26, 2017 @05:47PM (#15563357)
I believe that it's because of efforts like this that you don't see the need for "Twilio Engineer." When you make integration easy for the everyday developer, they're able to spend more time focusing on the other parts of their project.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by Trufa on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:33PM (#15561670)
Honestly, even as a marketing effort this is awesome. It just speaks well of a company that it does something like this, without knowing much about them before this, now I have impressions of cool and even trustworthy for some reason after seeing this.

Much like when you go into a website and know (unlike your average mother/grandfather) where to put your credit card or not because of the "feel", this gives me the feel of an awesome company.

Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by giobox on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:56PM (#15561913)
Anyone with the misfortune to work in enterprise software would probably disagree with describing Twilio as a "niche" project. Increasingly they _are_ inbound channels for a huge range of customer facing enterprise applications.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by crabasa on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:32PM (#15561665)
Twilio has an entire team of engineers focused on Developer Education. Two of the leads gave a talk [1] that explains this in more detail at Signal 2016.

[1] https://www.twilio.com/signal/2016/video/6Gjpnzch0sggKeey0yi...

Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by zitterbewegung on Thursday October 26, 2017 @11:56PM (#15565616)
I think we will have Twilio Engineers. They might be called vocal interface engineers. and I'm pretty sure that there will be people that would exclusively use their SMS / MMS backends so they will be voice / text UX engineers.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by SimbaOnSteroids on Thursday October 26, 2017 @05:39PM (#15563295)
Speaking of hackathons, I've got one this weekend and was planning to use twilio in the hack. In the past did you just reach out to them for help? How so?
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by chirau on Thursday October 26, 2017 @07:29PM (#15564186)
They are super responsive and helpful. Where are you located? Sam Agnew is always there to help you.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by SimbaOnSteroids on Friday October 27, 2017 @09:47AM (#15568182)
Hackathon is in StL (midwest USA), it looks like they are only available M-F though.
Re:TwilioQuest, a new way to learn Twilio by scientistem on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:43PM (#15561769)
SMS is really hard. While my name isn’t Twilio Engineer, it might as well be SMS engineer.