Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full-time work

Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by ben_jones on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:48PM (#15554961)

You don't want your gig job? Man you have to HUSTLE. You have to have the ENERGY. You have to want to be SUCCESSFUL more then you want to SLEEP. Bill Gates HUSTLED. Steve Jobs HUSTLED. Kobe Bryant HUSTLED. If you aren't successful its YOUR fault.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by armenarmen on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:30PM (#15551552)

Yeah, and these gigs aren't the best thing around for sure. But I wonder where people would be without them, you know? Would it be huge unemployment? Or would conventional employees be the result?

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by bmurphy1976 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @03:50PM (#15553494)

They would probably be unemployed. Now we have people who are barely employed. They are paid just enough to keep them from banding together and demanding change. If they were unemployed then they'd have a lot more incentive to do something. Now they are trapped trying to keep their heads above water.

Don't think this isn't on purpose. Every last dime is getting squeezed out.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by xapata on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @05:11PM (#15554307)

Incompetence is just as plausible as conspiracy.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by taejo on Thursday October 26, 2017 @03:17AM (#15556978)

What incompetence? It's working out just fine for the employers.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by xapata on Thursday October 26, 2017 @10:37PM (#15565252)

Most people want to help "the people" but differ on definitions of who the people are and what is best for them.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by anonymous5133 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:22PM (#15552044)

Really depends. If you think about uber then without uber or similar services then people would use taxis. The taxi drivers would get paid more due to having monopolies in most cities and fares would be outrageous.

Most of the gig type companies are able to offer lower prices to consumers at the expense of workers.

Also important to note is that uber and lyft sell their gigs as just side income, not a full time job so I think people have been fair warned that uber is not sufficient to support yourself.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:57PM (#15552386)

I think there is a huge portion of trips taken with Lyft/Uber that would not be taken at all with a taxi. I would never take a taxi except in the most dire circumstances due to my experience of them being dirty and smoke smelling and questionable drivers, but with Uber/Lyft, I use them all the time now instead of asking family or friends for drop off/pickup at airport, or getting around the city, etc.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by collyw on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:48PM (#15552289)

Uber is banned where I live, and the taxis are a reasonable price.

When I went home to the UK at Christmas, Uber wanted to charge around 3 times the price of the monopolistic black cabs.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by zzalpha on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:36PM (#15554902)

The taxi drivers would get paid more due to having monopolies in most cities and fares would be outrageous.

Uhh... Uber is, like, 5-6 years old in most locales, less in many. This isn't some alternative universe we have to imagine. We just have to think back to before 2010... you know, the before time. The long long ago.

And back then, taxi rates were hardly "outrageous". Hell, even today, Uber isn't necessarily that much cheaper in a lot of places.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by arbie on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:49PM (#15556217)

In sparsely populated areas, taxis are sometimes even cheaper. In cities, though, it's not even a contest. Ride-sharing is 2x to 3x cheaper than a taxi in my limited dataset.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by voidmain on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:26PM (#15552726)

Usually high taxi fares don't go to the drivers, they go to the owners of the licenses. I think a NYC medallion used to cost $1.3 million before Uber; I don't think most of the drivers were shelling that out.

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by walshemj on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @04:29PM (#15553903)

Not all countries have the corrupt medallion system

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by walshemj on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:58PM (#15553071)

Yes and guess who subsides those peoples benefits - I don't mind subsidizing nurse or dr training but a taxi company no way

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Re:Most US jobs created since 2005 are not conventional full... by walshemj on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:56PM (#15553054)

well one Uber driver interviewed in the UK used to own his own private hire firm he's seen a huge drop

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