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Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by CamperBob2 on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:59PM (#15547090)
DRM has always represented an attempt on the part of content owners to seize more territory than the framers of US copyright law intended. Copyright was supposed to be a bargain between the creators and the commons. In return for the rightsholder's agreement to release the material into the public domain upon expiration, the government would grant a temporary legal monopoly.

Unfortunately the first part of the copyright bargain is implicit, not part of the law. With DRM, rightsholders get to have their cake -- our cake -- and eat it too. Not only is the protection granted by copyright now effectively perpetual, but they've purchased additional legislation such as the DMCA and endless copyright term extensions that punish people who are trying to claim their half of the bargain.

IMHO copyright should not apply to anything with DRM. Rightsholders should be forced to decide whether they want a temporary legal monopoly with no technical protection, or a permanent technical monopoly with no legal protection.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by bo1024 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:10AM (#15547647)
Completely agree on all counts. Regarding your last paragraph, that's an interesting point and similar to the tradeoff that patent protection provides -- you either openly publish the invention in return for legal protection, or you can leave it unpatented as a trade secret but no legal protection.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by smaddox on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:05AM (#15547375)
Copyright is not, and never was, for creators. It's for publishers.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by cyphar on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:48AM (#15548031)
Copyright was for authors a very long time ago[1]. It's been slowly corrupted by the greed of publishers over a very long time, but it is important to remember where copyright actually comes from and to reject emotional arguments about the rights of publishers (in truth, they don't deserve rights over creators' works -- they abuse creators enough as-is).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Anne

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by monocasa on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:52PM (#15551751)
Uhhhh....

> These restrictions were enforced by the Stationers' Company, a guild of printers given the exclusive power to print—and the responsibility to censor—literary works.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by cyphar on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:28PM (#15555683)
If you read the full paragraph in context (and the following paragraph), it says:

> Prior to the statute's enactment in 1710, copying restrictions were authorized by the Licensing of the Press Act 1662. [Your quote about the Stationers' Company]. The censorship administered under the Licensing Act led to public protest; as the act had to be renewed at two-year intervals, authors and others sought to prevent its reauthorisation. In 1694, Parliament refused to renew the Licensing Act, ending the Stationers' monopoly and press restrictions. Over the next 10 years the Stationers repeatedly advocated bills to re-authorize the old licensing system, but Parliament declined to enact them. Faced with this failure, the Stationers decided to emphasise the benefits of licensing to authors rather than publishers, and the Stationers succeeded in getting Parliament to consider a new bill.

Which means that your quote is quite out-of-context. The Stationers' Company lost their monopoly over printing rights due to public outcry, and they failed to get a new law passed until they made a change to it that emphasised the protection of authors. That law was called the Statute of Anne.

Even earlier on, copyright "law" was used as a tool of censorship by the Queen of England (who was Mary at the time). Effectively, a publisher would ask the monarch for the exclusive right to publish a particular book, and a guild of printers (the Stationers' Company) was formed later that then enforced their own version of Copyright under these monopolies they were given.

The Statute of Anne was the first time copyright was actually a public law, that anyone could enforce -- and it was the first time that something you could call a "copyright system" was intended to protect _authors_.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by ryandrake on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:16AM (#15547419)
More specifically, it's for copyright holders, who rarely might be creators, but are more often than not publishers.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by white-flame on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:36AM (#15548941)
If copyrighted status itself keeps getting extended into eternity, then the intent in expiration is lost anyway.