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Re:Patterns of Death in the South Still Show the Outlines of... by bjl on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:17PM (#15543252)
The 13th Amendment explicitly legalises slavery as the punishment for a crime, and its used all the time.
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Re:Patterns of Death in the South Still Show the Outlines of... by RingwormOne on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:28PM (#15543342)
And when we talk about slavery it's usually in the sense of racialized, bondage-from-birth slavery rather than penal labor.

The two are very different, and using the word 'slavery' to refer to both conflates meaning and disguises the important differences between the two.

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Re:Patterns of Death in the South Still Show the Outlines of... by lliamander on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:59PM (#15543671)
I think the term you may be looking for is "Noncentral Fallacy"

http://lesswrong.com/lw/e95/the_noncentral_fallacy_the_worst...

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Re:Patterns of Death in the South Still Show the Outlines of... by RingwormOne on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @02:37PM (#15544050)
Exactly. Thank you
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Re:Patterns of Death in the South Still Show the Outlines of... by bjl on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:16PM (#15544392)
Penal labor is coerced, unpaid labor which is by definition slavery.

What you're referring to is chattel slavery.

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