Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by dotdi on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:51AM
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I will neither admit nor deny supplying my credentials to Sci-hub.
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Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by afandian on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:56AM
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I don't think you'll have to. Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads. RIAA members poisoned the Bit Torrent well.
I'm neutral on the matter, but there are some obvious paths of recourse for publishers who don't want people sharing their credentials.
(Disclaimer: I work for Crossref, which is an organisation in the scholarly publishing space.)
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by Typhon on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:36AM
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In any case, some researchers have claimed that Sci-Hub obtained their credentials through phishing. I don't know if it's true but in any case, such claims provide plausible deniability against that kind of watermarking proof, don't they ?
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by kanzure on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:22AM
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> Both hidden and conspicuous watermarks are common in trade book PDF downloads
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by snowpanda on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:34AM
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Does only Crossref do this?
I'm asking because a friend of mine who's enrolled in 2 colleges, just downloaded the same scholarly PDF (one that's also available through sci-hub) with 2 different college credentials and they had the same sha256sum.
Then when he tried it through sci-hub, he also got the same sha256sum.
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by afandian on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:50AM
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Crossref doesn't do anything at all in relation to SciHub or watermarking PDFs. We don't host content. (I'm happy to talk about what we do do, but it's off-topic)
Sorry if my disclaimer wasn't clear. I was just pointing out affiliation as standard on HN.
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by auggierose on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:44AM
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Nah, that doesn't work for academic papers. You usually access them anonymously anyway through your institution (which has a subscription). So even if they watermark (and I don't think they do), they can only watermark the institution.
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by afandian on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:52AM
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There are plenty of instances of big-name publishers sending nastygrams to whole institutions and/or cutting them off for perceived abuse.
Re:Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers
by auggierose on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @11:04AM
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In that case the institution should unsubscribe and point their members to sci-hub.