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Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by 0x32 on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @02:31AM (#15539654)
Since iOS 10 the system apps have been on the App Store, and as far as I know, they can now be updated that way, too.
Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by realityking on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @02:59AM (#15539745)
They‘re listed on the App Store but they‘re fake listings. Removing a core app from the home screen does not remove it from the device. Installing it from the App Store restores that link.

That means updates still need to be a part of a system update.

Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by osteele on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:26AM (#15540570)
In iOS 10, reinstalling the News or Calculator apps was instant. In iOS 11, the App Store list sizes for these apps, and reinstalling them takes a few seconds (on my phone and connection).

I haven’t measured data usage, but I suspect this means that removing Calculator’s icon actually removes its code from the system. If that is true, it is potentially upgradeable independent of the iOS system, at least from a technical perspective.

I suspect Apple’s QA and release processes cannot take advantage of this, though.

Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by jdmichal on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:11AM (#15540956)
How this works in Android for system apps: One can only disable a system app. This disable button replaces the uninstall button. It deletes any updates to the app from your phone, since it will obviously still have the original version baked into the ROM, and removes it from the app list. It might also disable any service registrations for the app... Unsure on whether that's true.

Re-enabling the app will basically restore the ROM version. You can then install updates from the store, which I think is basically a full install and the ROM version is ignored again, based on the consumed space of such apps.

Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by kemayo on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:57AM (#15542030)
That's interesting! I hadn't noticed the change. As you say, it's probably not relevant until Apple can actually release a single-app update through that channel, but it might be a glimpse at a future where that's an option.
Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by ASipos on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:49AM (#15539912)
Like IE in Win XP
Re:Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator by ateesdalejr on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:31PM (#15543382)
You are probably correct. Maybe if the developers decided that their precious prefab apps didn't need to come prebaked into every release of android and iOS and instead let the consumer pick, the market would be a bit less full of app bloat.