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Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by macintux on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:21PM (#15538444)
The recharging story is made even better by the ability to put one at a time in the case. That's particularly important for long phone calls/web conferences/etc, when the microphone tends to drain the battery faster.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by microcolonel on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:03PM (#15538664)
With my wired headphones I don't have to do any hacks or workarounds to use them as long as the host device is turned on, I get better audio, they will outlast AirPods if I'm not rough with them, I can (and do, probably several times a day) move them quickly between my workstation, my laptop, and my two phones, they cost about the same, they're more comfortable, they have a better seal, they work where RF is not allowed, they work just as well with every device I own.

If I ever need a replacement in a pinch, almost every convenience store has an inexpensive pair of compatible headphones, good ones can be bought online or at audio stores.

Headphone jacks also double as line-out jacks, allowing you to play audio through any of the billions (!) of compatible systems without noticeable RF interference even in congested conditions.

Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by macintux on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:06PM (#15538677)
Yep. And I still would never go back. The liberation of wireless is just amazing.
Re:Google's latest iPhone rival off to a rocky start by microcolonel on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:16PM (#15538725)
I'm just sick of all of this "I know you think that" condescension. I'm not even telling people "The massive sucking sound you're hearing is a fad, you just haven't noticed yet.", I'm not telling people that wireless headphones aren't great sometimes.

I'm just saying: keep the jack there, it's cheap, it's convenient, it costs next to nothing in any way (BOM, water resistance, space), it gives customers good and valid options, even if they ultimately want to shove a little plug in the hole and forget about it.

It is not like a CD-ROM drive at all, because it is ubiquitous and common in use (unlike optical media at the time of the superdrive removal), and removing it does not notably improve the device in any way. It doesn't hinder form factor, it doesn't hinder any selling point of the device, and it makes hundreds of millions of people happy.

Four years ago, when Apple started removing laptops with optical drives — they only finished this time last year — from their lineup, very few people were still using optical media on a regular basis. Today, almost everyone who uses headphones uses wired ones when they have the option to.

There's a difference between avant-garde, and jumping the gun.