Most people don't move because they "hate the bay". They might hate living in the Bay Area because of housing, traffic, etc.

> then act, vote, and do everything in their power to make it exactly like SF

I won't lie, during my time in Portland I def experienced some schadenfreude when California-native drivers complained about tickets for failing to yield to pedestrians.

Clearly they are not from Berkeley.

Just some self awareness and critical thought would be nice.

Maybe all those little ways of doing things that you think are backwards immoral or inefficient are part of why the place had qualities that drew you there in the first place.

Cynically, the complaint about SF isn't that it's unacceptable, it's that it's only acceptable if you got in early and bought property. Assuming these people are buying up houses or condos in Denver, voting to make it like the Bay is a profitable move.

(More realistically, I'll be most of them just hated a few specific aspects of the Bay.)

Have to agree. I've lived here just over 11 years now and watching the rate things have changed and how fast people are moving here is insane. Funny I moved here from the middle of nowhere and now it is turning into one of THE hot places to move to. Just glad I bought my house back in 09 before shit got stupid...

Interested in specifics here, if you're willing to expound.