Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by efitz on Monday October 23, 2017 @01:56PM
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SMTP has headers that are visible to the email provider while the email is in transit. The absence of logs, etc., goes far to mitigate this threat. As an added benefit, there is a lot of anti-spam functionality that can be used with only this metadata available, and only ephemerally. I don't think it's true that zero-knowledge at rest means inability to provide common email provider value adds like anti-spam.
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by KGIII on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:05PM
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To add to the above post, the headers have to be unencrypted, else they'd have no method to actually send the email. If it were encrypted, they'd have no idea what the address was, or who to bounce it to if the address doesn't exist.
Email headers contain a lot of information. It has the various email addresses, servers involved, ip addresses, time stamps, subject, priority, and things like that.
The body of the email is the only part that gets encrypted when encryption is in use.
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by rowyourboat on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:21PM
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You are conflating the SMTP envelope and the mail headers. The SMTP envelope is necessary for delivery, the mail headers are not (the addressee information is duplicated)
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by KGIII on Monday October 23, 2017 @03:02PM
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Thanks for the correction. I had originally typed 'meta data' but thought headers were the same thing. Thanks!
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by Fnoord on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:27PM
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Whatever happened to filtering client side?
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by criddell on Monday October 23, 2017 @03:04PM
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Not much. It's as bad now as it was a decade ago.
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by tjoff on Monday October 23, 2017 @03:12PM
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In other words, about as good as gmail but with better control over false positives.
Re:Why ProtonMail is more secure than Gmail
by criddell on Monday October 23, 2017 @03:24PM
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For me, Gmail solves the spam problem. I don't even remember the last time I've had a false positive or a piece of spam that made it to my inbox.
My entire family uses Gmail (our domain is hosted via Google Apps) and as far as I know, it's been very close to perfect for all of us.
One could argue that Google's filtering of spam and potentially harmful mail is a point in favor of Google.