Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study

Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by curiousgeorgio on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:38AM (#15533469)

Again your example isn't even in the same ballpark as what you'd actually see in a rigorous study of the relationship between outdoor air pollution and heart disease, so please stop implying that it's somehow "very significant."

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Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by Retric on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:04AM (#15533685)

I was simply pointing out the flaws in your logic. The actual studies linking air pollution to heart disease stand on their own just fine.

The method of action is well supported and due to the inflammatory response. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3784920/

But, at this point it's clear you don't care about science when it conflicts with your gut feelings, a common failing.

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Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by curiousgeorgio on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:45AM (#15533993)

As mentioned in another comment, many of those studies are referring to indoor air pollution (or including indoor and outdoor air pollution in the same study), which is disingenuous at best.

I'm not calling into question the method of action, but I am saying that there is no evidence of outdoor air pollution having anywhere close to the same effect on premature death (via heart disease or otherwise) as smoking, nor would it even be remotely close to the other fictitious numbers you've mentioned.

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Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by Retric on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:55PM (#15534635)

> (via heart disease or otherwise)

Smoking on it's own causes ~6 million deaths per year and air pollution is linked to ~5.5 to 7 million deaths a year so they really are on the same scale. (And larger than my example 20% vs 30%.)

Yes, only a subset of the population smoke so the direct impact is higher. However, some areas also have vastly higher levels of air pollution.

Now, if you have some actual evidence then sure feel free to share, but I am just not hearing it.

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Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by curiousgeorgio on Monday October 23, 2017 @01:49PM (#15535231)

Again, you're conflating indoor and outdoor air pollution, and if you look closely, even the WHO's own "facts" for estimates of outdoor/ambient air pollution deaths are full of weasel words and misleading claims.

Instead of merely reading the conclusions of these studies, I'd encourage you to look at the underlying data with a healthy dose of skepticism. Only then will you start to see all the holes in the research.

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Re:Global pollution kills 9M a year, according to new study by Retric on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:07PM (#15535428)

In door air pollution includes outdoor air pollution as most people don't have much in the way of air filtration. So, they are not exactly separate categories independent of each other.

You even have edge cases like parking lot attendants / toll collectors who have vastly increased disease risks.

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