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Re:Tesla Strikes Deal With Shanghai to Build Factory in China by l5870uoo9y on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:19AM (#15532576)
Is that 50 years on top of ~40 years with stagnant wages? I don't think there is time for that.

> Real wages in the United States, have stagnated since the mid-1970s contrary to expectations that real wages should raise in line with increases in productivity. Between 1973 and 2013 productivity in the United States grew by 74% whilst compensation for workers grew by 9% in the same period. The stagnation of real hourly wages has resulted in a Middle-class squeeze as increases in inflation and the cost of living exceeds the growth of real wages for members of the middle and lower classes.

Re:Tesla Strikes Deal With Shanghai to Build Factory in China by twoodfin on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:58AM (#15532801)
This assertion doesn't pass the smell test, unless you believe that the median working-age US household by income had a worse standard of living in 2013 than it did in 1973.

In reality, the distribution of employment income has shifted from cash wages to expanded benefits. There has been substantial growth in two-earner households which indeed puts downward pressure on individual wages but increases household income and wealth. Productivity gains have resulted in much cheaper goods in a variety of sectors, leading to a couple of decades of historically low inflation. We've also had big demographic shifts in immigration and aging over 40 years that make point-to-point comparisons potentially misleading.

Re:Tesla Strikes Deal With Shanghai to Build Factory in China by _Tev on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:01PM (#15555035)
> This assertion doesn't pass the smell test, unless you believe that the median working-age US household by income had a worse standard of living in 2013 than it did in 1973.

Actually you are the first one I see to dispute this. Do you base these smell tests/beliefs in any public data? I would like to see the source to have something to dispute this frequently stated claim.

Re:Tesla Strikes Deal With Shanghai to Build Factory in China by twoodfin on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @10:29PM (#15555907)
Let me reverse this: What do you think was better about life for the median working-age US household in 1973? Their house was smaller. Their car was less safe, less reliable and guzzled gas. They had no internet, no mobile phones and only 3 television networks. Eating at a restaurant was a monthly indulgence at best. Air travel was a luxury. Their children could expect to have seven fewer years of life, and were markedly less likely to go to college.

Think about how much someone would have to pay you to live a 1973 lifestyle, and it should be obvious why claiming there have been 40 years of “stagnation” is nonsense.

Re:Tesla Strikes Deal With Shanghai to Build Factory in China by _Tev on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:12AM (#15568442)
Nice strawman. Discussion was about real wage growth (vs. productivity gains).

Quality of life != wages

And FYI many people view U.S.quality of life as garbage, so maybe there really is not much growth to brag about.