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Re:After the end of the startup era by jedberg on Sunday October 22, 2017 @02:41PM (#15528243)
That might just be because you are getting older and value your time more.

I used to try every new app, every new service. I used to run Linux on my desktop. Doing those things was fun and challenging, but took time.

I have kids now. I value spending time with them over fiddling with the latest app or spending an hour tuning my kernel so I can run my window manager at max resolution. I use a Mac and it just does that for me now, albeit with far less customizability and fun, but that is the tradeoff I'm willing to make.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm saying your sample group has an age bias. :)

Re:After the end of the startup era by xfer on Sunday October 22, 2017 @08:52PM (#15529933)
You don't need to customize your software every month. I haven't customized my configs for over 3 years now. I am running linux and it is a one-time effort.
Re:After the end of the startup era by jedberg on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:16AM (#15530678)
No offense, but that's kind of the fun of linux on the desktop.

Also, if you really haven't updated in three years, that means that you're still running kernel 3.16, which has 81 known vulnerabilities[0], 12 of which are critical. That's the kind of stuff I don't really want to worry about anymore.

[0] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-33/p...

Re:After the end of the startup era by xfer on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:18AM (#15531077)
No idea what's your definition of customization is but running package update command isn't what i consider as customization. And updating kernel/pkgs doesn't require you to customize them.
Re:After the end of the startup era by tekjenitalor on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:54AM (#15532775)
I get both sides of this. For 17 years I ran linux everywhere. FreeBSD as well but infrequently as a desktop. After two years of mac and seeing the breakage and perversion of the unix foundations apple inflicts I gave up on it (entirely) and work with macs only under protest.

So now? Linux and *bsd for paid work. Windows for the desktop. cygwin and mobaxterm ftw. All old is new again.

Re:After the end of the startup era by HumanDrivenDev on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:35AM (#15530754)
Long time (but not very religious about it) Linux user here.

What operating system allows you to "not worry about" OS security updates, and how is it different from Linux?

Re:After the end of the startup era by raldi on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:07AM (#15531050)
On a Mac, you get a popup that says there's a new OS update, hit the spacebar with your forehead, get a drink while your computer reboots, and when you get back, it's restarted and put all your application windows back the way you left them, including terminal contents.

In my experience, on Linux such installations are smooth for about a year and a half, and then start failing for cryptic reasons, even if you've done everything possible to pick a mainstream distro, ideal hardware, and keep the machine as vanilla as possible.

(And I say this as someone who's been using Linux since the 1990's.)

Re:After the end of the startup era by xfer on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:24AM (#15531100)
I use a rolling release distro(void-linux), like i mentioned i haven't had to do any such thing for about 3 years.

I also take care of my parents computer with ubuntu and i have done two major release upgrades and have experienced no errors.

Re:After the end of the startup era by ulucs on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:33AM (#15531123)
> On a Mac, you get a popup that says there's a new OS upgrade, you hit the spacebar with your forehead, get a drink while your computer reboots, and when you get back, it's restarted and put all your application windows back the way you left them, including terminal contents.

The latest update introduced many problems, though

https://www.google.com/search?q=high+sierra+breaks&ie=utf-8&...

Re:After the end of the startup era by raldi on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:37AM (#15531138)
And it's major "man bites dog" news. When a major Linux distro does that, it doesn't even merit mentioning on Slashdot anymore.
Re:After the end of the startup era by Bromlife on Monday October 23, 2017 @01:55AM (#15531007)
Installing Linux is takes no more time is in anyway more complicated than installing Windows. Even installing Ubuntu on my laptop was a simple affair (including having the wifi work right away, in the installer).

What you've said may have been true several years ago, but it isn't anymore.