Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Management Engine

Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by guaka on Friday October 20, 2017 @04:46AM (#15514381)

For website of a purist software freedom company I was surprised to see Privacy Badger show up with a red 5:

ajax.googleapis.com fonts.googleapis.com secure.gravatar.com fonts.gstatic.com code.jquery.com

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by belorn on Friday October 20, 2017 @06:32AM (#15514736)

Can someone explain why you would want to link to fonts/js libraries rather than have a copy on the server and server that yourself?

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by askvictor on Friday October 20, 2017 @06:36AM (#15514753)

One reason would be that the browser will cache them if they are used in multiple sites, so loading will be much faster on subsequent sites using the same resources. Another might be that such resources load faster off a CDN than your own server.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by nilved on Friday October 20, 2017 @09:39AM (#15515636)

In practice, this never happens. The value is certainly less than the data you're selling about your users to Google.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by askvictor on Friday October 20, 2017 @06:15PM (#15519469)

What data are you giving to Google (or another CDN) by loading jQuery or a font from them? What does the ToS say? Genuine question.

Edit: here's the ToS: https://developers.google.com/speed/libraries/terms If you believe Google, they're not collecting anything.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by nilved on Monday October 23, 2017 @03:40AM (#15531418)

Don't be naive.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by skj on Friday October 20, 2017 @11:52AM (#15516727)

Value to whom? The site loads faster (so people like it slightly better), it's easier to maintain (less files to serve and keep track of), all for the cost of something the site owners didn't pay for in the first place.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by throw2016 on Friday October 20, 2017 @12:28PM (#15517050)

This is often repeated but without any data to back it up its a bit of a myth.

My tests show local resources consistently loading faster than making a link to Google. These are supposed to be cached but thing like fonts are always loaded again. Anyone can repeat this for themselves.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by pgeorgi on Friday October 20, 2017 @12:58PM (#15517295)

> Anyone can repeat this for themselves.

I tried, they came from the disk cache.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by earenndil on Friday October 20, 2017 @12:22PM (#15516999)

Use decentraleyes!

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by n1000 on Friday October 20, 2017 @10:29PM (#15520376)

https://decentraleyes.org/

> Protects you against tracking through "free", centralized, content delivery. It prevents a lot of requests from reaching networks like Google Hosted Libraries, and serves local files to keep sites from breaking. Complements regular content blockers.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by annabellish on Friday October 20, 2017 @06:40AM (#15514764)

What's wrong with any of those things?

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by yjftsjthsd-h on Friday October 20, 2017 @07:00AM (#15514821)

Libraries are probably fine, but pulling them from Google means that Google can track you

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by homero on Friday October 20, 2017 @08:32AM (#15515219)

Probably but those domains are meant to be cookie less for speed

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by nerdponx on Friday October 20, 2017 @08:51AM (#15515330)

They still know which IP address is loading it. And I do often see cookies on CDNs in uBlock Matrix.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by samirillian on Friday October 20, 2017 @08:32AM (#15515223)

Don't know how I never put this together. Good (cynical) explanation for Google fonts.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by Crontab on Friday October 20, 2017 @10:38AM (#15516108)

Don’t mistake their generosity for generosity.

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Re:Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel’s Manageme... by Drdrdrq on Friday October 20, 2017 @04:15PM (#15518816)

This is not cynical, it's realistic. After all, tracking users is closely tied to their main source of income. It is not a coincidence that most pages use Google Analytics.

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